Tuesday, September 19, 2017

DUNLAP, Derry. Westmoreland Co. PA Looking for family. LEMON GROVE Attendee's request

Sone DUNLAP first names that are in some way interlinked.

William, John, Robert, Daniel, Thomas, and Margaret, Elizabeth,  Peggy & James

1.  Have looked at 1790 census  it shows a William Dunlap  2 3 5

 A James McClure was  Co - Executor of  William Dunlap's WILL with son James Dunlap.

The census list a  Wm McCLURE.   No James listed.  for 1790.  possibly in 1800 or 1810.

2.  This  William DUNLAP made a WILL, 21 March  1822,

It states, sealed in presence of  Thomas Dunlap,  Daniel Dunlap and William Dunlap.

Approved  be the two subscribing witnesses.
3.  25 May 1834  same day recorded  no  letters taken out.

James Dunlap got land and cattle

Peggy Dunlap got filly  ?  and use of house and other pertinent items.

Their brother and sister was to receive the divided  up other items  done by James Dunlap and James McClure.

4.  1820 census lists 5 Dunlap's or is it 4.  Very hard to read.  Thomas, William, John, a possible Robert and even blown up not sure of other Dunlap name.

5.  Having Margaret Dunlap's Will 17 Feb. 1826
 Executed 2 June 1826

5 children living: Robert, William, John, James  and  dau Mary wife of Robert Sprowls
   James is away
3 grandchildren
: John. Susan & Jenni Dunlap children of Thomas dcd   have his Will.
16 Aug 1816

**** Smith  & Robert Dunlap witness    Smith may be Geor?
She had 6 children.
Westmoreland Co.  Pa

Derry Twp

6.  Thomas Dunlap ,  1422  ( father of Archibald, ) wife Jemima,   grandson Thomas
      ( 25 acres land near Archibald).
      James  100 acres   got from Hutichers.
      Jeanie  m to Moses Culberson, lot in Williamsport, Washington Co., Pa
      Jemima  m to John Wherry
      Jane & Jemima,  mixed items
      David?Daniel over plush money if any after bequeaths
      4 July 1839
      Codicil p437  John Robison
Moses Cubberson & Archibald  son    spelt both ways

7.  A Will of Thomas DUNLAP, wife Jemima and son Archibald.and Grandson  Thomas.
To be given a considerable amount of money. can not read dates or signatures.


 in the Pennsylvania, Land Warrants and Applications, 1733-1952

Name:Thomas Dunlap
Warrant Date:3 Mar 1812
Warrant Place:Derry, Westmoreland

Name:Thomas Dunlap
Warrant Date:8 Jan 1814
Warrant Place:Derry, Westmoreland
1800 census  lists both
  Thomas Dunlap  and William Dunlap

1810 census  

Name:Thomas Dunlap
Home in 1810 (City, County, State):Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10:4
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44 :1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10:1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15:1
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44:1
Number of Household Members Under 16:6
Number of Household Members Over 25:2
Number of Household Members:8

Name:Thos Dunlap
Home in 1800 (City, County, State):Unity, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:1
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44:7
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25:2
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over:1
Number of Household Members Over 25:8
Number of Household Members:11


Name:Thomas Dunlap
Home in 1820 (City, County, State):Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Enumeration Date:August 7, 1820
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15:1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 18:1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:4
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over:1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15:1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over :1
Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture:1
Free White Persons - Under 16:2
Free White Persons - Over 25:2
Total Free White Persons:8
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other:8

1830 census

Name:Thomas Dunlap
Home in 1830 (City, County, State):Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29:2
Free White Persons - Males - 60 thru 69:1
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9:1
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29:1
Free White Persons - Females - 60 thru 69:1
Free White Persons - Under 20:1
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49:3
Total Free White Persons:6
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored):6

1840 census
Name:Thomas Dunlap
Home in 1840 (City, County, State):Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39:1
Free White Persons - Males - 70 thru 79:1
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19:1
Free White Persons - Females - 60 thru 69:1
Free White Persons - Under 20:1
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49:1
Total Free White Persons:4
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves:4

1790 census
Name:Wm Dunlap
Home in 1790 (City, County, State):Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16:3
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over:2
Free White Persons - Females:5
Number of Household Members:10

Name:Wm Dunlap
Home in 1800 (City, County, State):Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10:1
Free White Persons - Males -10 thru 15:1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:2
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over:1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15:1
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25:1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over:1
Number of Household Members Under 16:3
Number of Household Members Over 25:2
Number of Household Members:8

Name:William Dunlap
Home in 1810 (City, County, State):Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10:1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15:1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:2
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over:1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15:1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over :1
Number of Household Members Under 16:3
Number of Household Members Over 25:2
Number of Household Members:7

Name:Wm Dunlap
Home in 1820 (City, County, State):Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Enumeration Date:August 7, 1820
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:2
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over:1
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25:1
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44:1
Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture:1
Free White Persons - Over 25:2
Total Free White Persons:5
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other:5

robert - elizabeth
d elizabeth  m joe ardtman
margaret mccreey 
thomas son


Sunday, September 3, 2017

Url's Reviewed. Previously Shared.

Saturday's Workshop was a review of the Url's shared by fellow genealogist Tina Sansone.
Again, Thanks Tina Sansone for sharing.

Shirley called, not able to come and said she was making head way on one line from url not previously known.

Those in attendance chose the various urls they wanted to see. (Some had not been at the June Meeting).  So glad because we all looked into some from Great Britain and found a gold mine of data none of us were aware of.

The various sites we looked at all brought up interesting conversations for researching our families.

We did not cover as many as I thought we might but we had a great discussion regarding the url's we did peak into.

Major time was spent on this site:     http://www.genuki.org.uk      

We scrolled down and covered some topics the attendees wanted, which we all found interesting.

MOOSE ROOTS  http://www.mooseroots.com      various interesting site.

We spent time talking about Delaware and New Jersey.  We spent time talking of how the earlier settlers shared building and helped each other build and create this country. Religions shared church structure to have services and some were held in peoples homes.

We spent some time talking about Slavery and the fact it was all over the USA of that time for the CW. Just not the south. Also that it was Black's that brought the first ships of slaves to the US because they were their tribes enemy and that removed the leaders from fighting them. The Dutch joined them in bringing them in.   Yes we had several url's we could look at but only opened one and the dialogue started.

We also spent time on the http://dunhamwilcox.net   site. That site covers 5800 data files for CT, RI, MA, NJ, NY, & MI  includidng over 400 will and probate files, 300 deeds and over 300 gravestones photos from Middlesex Co. CT.     Much of the conversation was on how Susi learned at the Michigan Archives that it was New Yorkers that settled Michigan and the role the Erie Canal played in it's development.

Friday, September 1, 2017

Bonita-Sunnyside Library Sat 1 to 4 pm

            2 September 2017   1 to 4 pm Susi Pentico presenting. 

  We will go back and review some older webpages and what they can do to help us.  We will discuss if  you used any of the many new url's you were exposed to in June.

  Being amazed at how many people were not aware of many of the sites that were shared. Mostly free sites which should please everyone. 

Any time you miss due to conflicts please advise me and I can share information with you.

Wednesday, August 30, 2017

Most Exciting Find on Mom's side of Family by Susi Pentico

Currier and Ives Doc filled out by Sanford Hoffman. Henry's is very hard to read.

My Most Exciting Genealogy Research Find on Mom’s Side by Susi Jones Pentico

My Mom had me help her do research and write letters to our family in Wyoming from the time I was 12. 

We had inherited some great information and facts written by her ancestors.

But when I went to help her find Henry Huffman/Hoffman’s parents, the world came crashing down.

I found 5  H H’s in the neighborhood. I spent 3 years separating the families and finding the partial list of the children.

I wrote to Historical and Genealogical Societies I joined many lists and groups.

These men I learned in the end were all family but only one was the ancestor of my Henry Hoffman b 1803 in Greene Co. PA.

Census did not lists names before 1850 so no help at least not much but where these men’s homes appeared to set.

Having talked many times to Grandad Hoffman in Wyoming I knew some things to watch for but not much to actually help in researching ancestors back 80 years or better.

I did Land Deeds, Every Will for a Hoffman/Huffman, Probates, Court Records, Newspaper researches.  Writing more letters than I ever thought I would. 

 I looked at school records, I found some help when the newspaper would report about arguments on school meetings.  It listed who was whom, generally.

Looked at Civil War Records, looked at Rev War Records. Since everyone said his father was in the Frontier Rangers and Rev War.  Many had thought the one they found was right but not in the end.  My first break came in a tax record.
The Henry Hoffman  b 1803, I was aware of, had to fill out a tax paper in Maryland and PA. It listed where his father was born and when .    He sold Apples he grew in his orchards.

A lot of the data I dug out was against what most of the family had written down 80 years or more before.  Yes, I went to Pennsylvania and met the descendants of Sanford’s siblings that never left PA. Sanford being my line down from Henry Huffman. Sanford’s sister and one brother came to Iowa right after the Civil War.

Loved the pictures and documents (Greene Co. PA kin) they had and it helped me to point out where the connections were not correct.  They are super great cousins.

One was a History Professor and when he read my papers he called and said it has to be wrong. I asked him to please track the sources and if I was wrong I would change my data, because I did not grow up hearing the daily stories on my ancestor like they did..

About a week later he called and was excited to say I was correct in my paper trails and connections.  How the family had lost some of that data,  he did not know.
Yesk we are all human and we all make mistakes.

Two of the Henry Huffman’s/Hoffman’s were cousins, one was an Uncle, one was my direct which I knew of, the other one was the Father whom I was looking for. Henry Huffman b abt 1740 in VA died 1811 Dec or 1812 Jan when Probate took place.

The name in records was spelt Huffman, Houghman, Hoffman and HOOFMAN.

One of my biggest breaks was when Henry’s brother George sold him land in Virginia and the Sr. Henry did not sell it until 1805 in Greene Co. PA.   I tracked it back to VA and found the original transfer to Henry from George, paid for by a gun.

Many thought he was his father but no that was not true. Thanks to an elderly relative who had more data in a trunk in Ohio she shared.

The oldest three boys were Henry, John and George, known to us.  My cousin whom died last spring had tracked John’s line down, I did Henry and another worked on George.
Actually we all worked on John because the father of Henry Sr. born 1740’s was a John or Johann Hoffman from Germany.  John had land in Westmoreland Co. PA., early. I have the land deed. But tax license  for Henry b 1803 stated on it Henry Sr was born in VA.

We worked together and separately to put the pieces together.  John’s descendant we learned lived in Fallbrook Ca and moved to Michigan to care for her Mom about the time we found each other in the early 90’s,  George’s line lived in Ohio where George had land in both Ohio and PA at the time of his death in PA. abt 1814  Those records are in the OGS Library. I have lived in San Diego since 1970 this last trip. I have been in and out of San Diego since 1848.,

When we founded the CVGS Group, there were to our amazement 5 Huffman/Hoffman cousins as part of the first 7 members, myself included.

Yes,  I saw Pat Postma the other day and she is hoping to come visit us soon.
She has had knees fixed but suffered a small stroke in May.  Nina Schulteis was a close cousin and her kin did another book on Greene Co. that  is in our library.
Geni Powell was related but not via Huffman/Hoffman.  I kept close contact with Pat and Nina.
The others are gone but Sandy. 

My older computer has all the data if I can ever get it open again. My back updrive died as did computer.

So never give up, leave no rock, tidbit or thought unturned.

Do not forget to pay attention to family traits, birthmarks,  medical history and other things  many never mention or discuss.  A cowlick in the hair, twisted fingers, webbed toes, ear defects, (not really but different than others).  

There appears to be three more members of Huffman/Hoffman’s that if DNA was done would verify they also were from Johan Hoffman.  I worked with Rudolph’s line with cousin In Kansas. His work was awesome.  We never found the link but the data implies they were all kin.  I just hope some of Bill’s down line does the DNA test.  They have all the same traits, and quirks the rest of us have.  Some more pronounced than mine. Truly believe Rudolph was also a brother and an Elizabeth was a sister.  Their family pictures all fit right in.  I have his CD and book for use.

Never Found proof of Rudolph on paper, but we all agreed , he lived near the rest of them , they married into the lines and moved together when moving.

What we know now is Johan Hoffman came to USA,  time unknown, had sons : John, George, Henry,  and two daughters and probably 2 more sons.

My Henry b abt 1740 in Va died 1812 Jan Probate. Lived in Hampshire Co. a while but not named that then, moved to now Greene Co. married Mary Provator, had daughter (?), divorced her and went back to VA.  Was told jumped the broom with new spouse Catherine  and had five children in Va before coming back up to Greene Co. PA in 1801 where Joseph Huffman was born then my Henry b 1803 d 1879 Greene Co. PA  and brother Rezin b 1805.  Earlier children have stated Va for birth.

Many moved to Monroe Co. Ohio when they learned PA was claiming their land as being Pennsylvanian for taxes.  They signed papers when purchasing land that it was VA land.  Tax base different, rules different, etc., England had different rules for almost every boat load that left England it seems.

Henry b 1803 died 1879  m Elizabeth Higgins, had several children including our Sanford Huffman/Hoffman.   Sanford had Franklin whom walked behind wagon herding the animals with his dog to Iowa.  Several other children were had by Henry and Elizabeth.

Sanford had several children besides Franklin, oldest male, living in Iowa,
Wife was Rachel Plants also from Greene Co. first child buried there. Sanford served in the CW there for WVA. The PA Units were full.

Franklin and his wife Samantha Abigail Duvall, family also from this Greene Co. region, living in Fayette and Washington Co. at times. They had  3 living children
Robert, Grace and Cecil L Hoffman (my grandfather). 

The Duvall line moved to Wheatland, Wyoming first. Grandad moved due to chronic bronchial problems in Iowa. 

Grandad was married to Inez Mae Scott from Iowa, Moravia region etc.  Her line came from Halifax Co. VA. , via Kentucky, Indiana. 

Grandad shared with me his father said he was of Indian heritage.  We found that heritage about 6-7 years ago.  I didn't a cousin in Ohio did. Thanks Debbie West.

Submitted by Susan Carol Jones Pentico


Saturday, August 26, 2017

New Site --- Campaign 1776

Stumbling across this site researching other information, decided it is worth sharing.

Today they are talking about "The Battle of Hanging Rock and the Southern Campaign".


Hoping it may help your research.

 I enjoyed learning a man from Virginia, migrated south and the experiences he had and how he helped shape our country.

Friday, August 18, 2017

Interesting Scottish - Italian Link

  Interesting Scottish - Italian Link

 O  as my eyes were scanning the latest NEHGS news report I found some thing very interesting.

 If you do not get the NEHGS News Letter then you can go to the below posted link and read some

 very exciting news.  It just may help unravel some of your mis placed DNA.   : > )

 At least it will give you an idea to ponder.
 The pictures sure give a heavy thought that direction.


The Italian highlanders who may have Scottish roots

  • 11 August 2017
  • From the sectionMagazine

Wednesday, August 16, 2017

Lemon Grove Library 6 to 7:30 Going Back to Basics

 Lemon Grove Library, 6 to 7:50 pm   16 August. 

   "Going back to Basics"   Presented by: Susi Pentico

    We will be reviewing the urls we shared in June from cousin in Tennessee, Have you tried the new ones and we will discuss using some good basics that are free and 
    appear to have gotten stronger over time.  Free is really a great thing. See you there.

Looking forward to your feedback.  Some great sites here.  

Also will share I  found a new line via the We'ReLated AP.  Found another Gould and found a bunch of Beyers never seen that coming...

Another Post by another Genealogist You Should Read : > )


This is the recent post James Tanner shared on his blog  about 10 rules for Genealogists.

Suspecting you may not have seen them it may be an enlightening adventure.

Thanks James Tanner for the article.

Sunday, August 13, 2017


Census Records for listed Countries to be free starting tomorrow morning.

I understand MyHeritage.com is going to be free from 14 to 20, AUGUST 2017. in celebration of
 surpassing ONE OF their goals.

They surpassed 8  billion historical records on Super Search.

Earliest records as far back as 1657.  Thanks, Daniel Horowitz.

Their census records for below listed will be open to search.


surpassing 8 billion historical records

https://www.myheritage.com/research    super search

Sunday, August 6, 2017

DNA and Side Affects by Susi

 Having attended a DNA Webinar yesterday morning preparing for more knowledge to grasp the changes that are happening in our DNA formatting and grasping of knowledge.

Emily Aulicino: Using atDNA to Verify and Expand Genealogy.

It was a good event. My side comment is the area I need to understand is still flown past, so quick, about the time I think I understand what to check with what, they move on to another part of the topic.

Suspecting it is because the speaker or presenter knows the knowledge so much better, that they think we grasp it quickly too.

Emily Aulicino, do not despair. So glad having attended the event, making it more obvious that segment is still not clicking for comparison's.  Before changing things around I could actually do some matches.  Now I am totally lost and need answers, since I had 5 more family members tested.

 FTDNA.com site is what I use basically.  It must be really nice for people to have each site do a test, most of us are struggling to have the funds to at least acquire one test.  : <(

This morning opening mail I see a great follow up on what the DNA can do for us in our research.
Just hop over to Judy Russell's site.......

The Legal Genealogist: The truth will out

It sums up the results you get quite well. Judy Russell I so enjoyed this blog post.

It truly gives you answers you may or may not be ready for.

Are you a member of a group that gives Free Webinar's ?  Then try some of them out.

Why can't those who learn strange events happened just be happy that they're  here and  move forward.  Nothing has changed except, what you know.

Sad, my Great Uncle, Gram's brother had their lineage traced in the early 1960's or before and when he got the book back, he learned, YUP we have some Indian Heritage.  What did he do after spending over $500 for the book? He burnt it in the fireplace.

Great Aunt had no idea if there were other copies or how we may acquire them.  I myself am stuck at the very spot the Indian had to present herself.

He later in life, looked at me and said,"You do not care you have Indian in you?"  I said, "No I am thrilled to learn part of me was here when part of me arrived."  "Indians have helped us in many ways most people never give credit to."

We hugged and no matter what I still loved him very much. But then he was sad he had destroyed the book but would not tell me who or when or how to resurrect the data.

He shared many things with me about family and helped with lots of more recent research until his death.

I said to my Great Uncle," you would not be who you are with out that Indian Grandma so why are you so against her, it's like being against your self."  That broke the ice for us to talk about our ancestor's.  

Friday, August 4, 2017

Researching War Information-- Some recent found Urls.

Sharing a few new finds for war Information and there are many many more.




Amazing what you can learn from reading this.


Great source


Last out today from FTMagazine.com

Sunday, July 30, 2017

Randy Seaver Presenting, Roots Magic in Review 5 August 1 to 4 pm

Bonita-Sunnyside Library,  1 to 4 pm  Roots Magic in Review  5 August 2017

The August 5th Saturday Workshop will be from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. in the Community Room at the Bonita-Sunnyside Libray (4375 Bonita Road). The program will be “RootsMagic Review” presented by Randy Seaver.

He will discuss the new Ancestry.com Treeshare and Ancestry.com WebHints. Come early to connect your laptops to the Library wi-fi. This event is free for all to attend.

 Open to all, working on Roots Magic Program.  Or wanting to learn Roots Magic.

Any early questions contact Susi Pentico at SusiCP1@gmail.com.

 You may email me your attendance since wrong  topic is on our board.

 Please come early so we can have everyone connected and ready to start by 1 pm.

 Thank You.

Thursday, July 27, 2017

Saturday 29 July, CVGS Meeting 1 Pm at CV Library Special Guest speakers also.

Yes. this Saturday we are having a normal meeting to get to meet people who work during the week and can not come to our monthly Wednesday afternoon meetings.

Yes, we are open to anyone who wishes to attend and join society we are not turning away anyone that lives in the region around ours. We have members from all over the region of San Diego County.

At the Park event in Coronado we heard," but we don't live in Chula Vista,"  Totally okay come join in the fun and learning and sharing that this society has been doing since founded.

We started with 5 then 6 then 19 then we slowly, slowly grew to what we have today which is again near 100 in members.  Our highest was 118 at one point.  Nina S. & Co, we were so excited when we almost hit 120. Nina S we sure miss you and many of the other Genealogical founding members.
May you all RIP.

Five of the founding members were cousins whom had never met before it made it a lot more fun.

This Saturday we are having a Holocaust speaker that filled the library recently and had to turn away people.

Chula Vista Genealogy Society General Meeting.
“Try To Remember - Never Forget”
Memoirs of Holocaust Survivor Ruth Goldschmiedova Sax
Presented by:  Sandra Scheller & Ruth Sax
Chula Vista Civic Center Branch Library
(365 F Street, Chula Vista, CA 91910)
Meet Ruth Goldschmiedova Sax.
She is standing next to the dress that her Grandmother wore during the time she was in Oederan. She never took it off and every week she would bend over and the Nazis painted an X and stripe down her backside. The dress was initially given to her in Auschwitz.
Sandra Scheller and Ruth Sax are coming to talk about Ruth's experience during the Holocaust. She was a 10 year old when her family was taken by the Nazis and sent to concentration camps.
Sandra is Ruth's daughter and has written a book about her mother's experiences. They will have their book for sale after the program.
Please note the change of DAY (Saturday) and TIME (1:00pm)!
Please register soon if you plan to attend this meeting so that we may better plan for this event.
Attendance is free

Taken from our society page... Come learn about the past.