Monday, July 24, 2017

Sending you to another Blog, please enjoy, it is well written.

Posted: 24 Jul 2017 07:03 AM PDT

Michael John Neill's Genealogy Website

He has written an excellent article on research and whom to research.

I was at Fort Wayne for 4 hours long ago with family on our way  to Monee, Ill.  I may get back some day. 

Michael is an excellent speaker and writer and having had his acquaintance for some years. 

Go read and learn more how some one else thinks.


Tuesday, July 18, 2017

Cliff Lamere is sharing NY OBIT Information.

New Lebanon Central School is in very northern Columbia County, but some of its students come from Stephentown in southern Rensselaer County.  I taught biology and general science there for three years in the early 1960s, so I have always had an interest in the school.  It was very enjoyable teaching those rural teenagers. 
I spent about two months working everyday trying to locate obituaries for that school system, and continue to update them.  At present, I have found 267 obituaries for 313 known deceased graduates from 1925-2010.  Social Security information and Findagrave data and photos have been added to the webpage for many of those whose obituary could not be found.  I also have found 88 obituaries for 91 known deceased employees of the school system (teachers, administrators, bus drivers, custodians, secretaries, cafeteria workers, etc.).

The graduate obituaries are arranged by graduation year, then alphabetically by graduation surname within each year.  The idea was to make it easy for a visiting graduate to quickly find classmates.

Cliff Lamere 

Cliff I want to share this with our  society we have many from this region, May I.  Susi Pentico 

Please do share it with your society.  I want people to use it and, hopefully, find some useful information.

A new way to look for obituary's. Thanks much. Cliff.,  Susi

Sunday, July 16, 2017

More Questions?? Do You????

More Questions, Do You???

Do you follow various speakers in Genealogy in blogs, twitter or workshops?  Do you find them as informative as I do?

I attended a workshop put on by Thomas MacEntee yesterday at a reasonable fee.  I learned some though not what I was wanting to know.  I think it is great that 23 and will let us increase our tests with the full medical. Ordered a kit and Federal Government stopped the tests so we  only received the genealogical data.

When you are working within your family with adopted members with no medical pass down knowledge it can be very frightening at times. Been there done that. Grandson lived on breathing machine for several months as a very small child. His brother suffers horrid headaches and we don't know why.   Aware everyone goes through some of this, due to parent dying young and information not passed down and families not wanting to share for who knows why.

Anything I can do to make my descendants life better I feel is my obligation to do it.  There are so many things we can not do, they must do themselves to be solid stable adults.

Workshop yesterday revealed an interesting tidbit.  Did you know that if you dislike cilantro, it has a strong connection to your ancestry?  Some people it tastes so bad worse than soap, hereditary factor.
I like it, so it did not affect me that way but we have a married in family member that does not care for it at all.

Have you asked your cousins, distant or close about their medical background?  Has there been lots of Heart attacks, Kidney infections, Pneumonia, (sign of weak lungs), strokes or blood diseases?

We have had Heart attacks in the family as young as 26 shortly after the Civil War, we have had many that died from Diabetes, Pneumonia, Kidney failure (lots in family related to them body parts).

As adults have you made the younger generation aware of the ailments they should keep eyes open for?  What about the various Cancers that are out there?  Many totally curable if you catch them quick enough, sadly not all though.

Lost a cousin in 1995 at Scripts Greene with a fast moving brain cancer.  From time found to death was less than 4 weeks.  They did not see  it before that at all.

It was a very rare form of cancer.  Wonder if the hospital has more knowledge now?

Please take this seriously and share data with your family, close and distant.

Have a healthy great life.

Thursday, July 13, 2017

Do you follow an Archivist, maybe we Should?

So,"Do you follow an Archivist, maybe we should?"

Realizing I wrote a wee bit some time back about the Michigan Archives  and the things that they hold.  I really should have stated more about what Archives do and have available to  help genealogists and historians.

Melissa LeMaster Barker is on Facebook and really posts some excellent information that would help many people, to grasp where to look or at least think about looking or digging.

Since we have those stuck in Tennessee I thought it appropriate to write about the fact she posts news and information on her Facebook page almost daily and  some times many items of interest.

She writes a great blog post also.

Today on Facebook she has posted some very informative information for researchers to become wise to.

I love that some of the Tennessee Vital Records are being modernized. A local newspaper posted some of the data and she shared some on her Facebook page.

Hoping you all hop over to her Facebook page or to her blog and see what she is sharing and we should be learning.
She is a Certified Archives Manager at the Houston County, Tennessee Archives.

Thanks Thomas MacEntee for making me aware of her excellent assistance to genealogists and historians.  
Melissa Barker, I have hair Mom rescued from her Mom's hair brush. Mom clipped hair pieces from each of us and kept them in our baby books. I still have mine.
Thanks for the great articles you present.

Friday, July 7, 2017

Help for those still looking.

Today a cousin contacted me in need of help & advice.  The answer he needed was

 I am a very large user of the sites. whether it is or

 They were the early to go to sites, and in my esteemed opinion they still are some of the best to start  with especially if you are a beginner or novice.

 There are many, many free sites we can use.

 Yes some times we need to resort to a wee more help but then I grew up with books supplying the  census answers and ships lists records.

  Being amazed that all the books we have used in the past that the LDS Library didn't toss them  instead of  ceasing with the microfilm. I love the old way and the less costly way.

  Understanding it costs to much to replicate a film now so they are stopping but that is not a good        thing I fear. has cleaned up much of the error prone data thankfully. I am still major cautious  when I am using their sources.

 The other day I mentioned Facebook, wow did the reader ship go down.  I guess to many people are not aware of what Facebook is doing to help genealogists.  I love the individual sites for the various states and counties and forms of technical information.  The adoption areas to help find your lost family, 2 sites I am aware of, is very productive.

As I wandered through my to discuss or talk about topics I found a couple of good spots to share.

I followed this person for some time and then due to situations beyond my control had to back off.
But there in my work pile it was listed.

This is a very good article that should be considered for keeping,  places to look. She now has a different site to follow but that article is a keeper.

The above site should help those looking for records in Pennsylvania.
It triggered that maybe Kentucky may have the same type of site or source in their state archives.

This site may help some of you.

Of course this site as and place to learn new data and information, It is our Educational Blog for the society.

Also check various societies blogs for information that may be what you are looking for.

Wednesday, July 5, 2017

Paper or Plastic, No Maybe Digital

We are going to talk about how we preserve our data a bit today.  

We started with hand drawings of peoples places and faces.

We moved up to paintings 

We then went to early photography taken on glass

We then moved to a more modern convention daurogatypes?

We then had early Kodak Eastman films.

Eastman Kodak used to send to my Uncle a Camera's to try out and 
send back to main office to develop. It would come in big boxes.
Yes we are related to that family and he was chosen to try out the box style camera.

You had to put powder on a bar, plug it in somehow and hide in the box to set for the picture.
When ready he would say don't move.  Then POOOOF a flash from the bar would capture the pictures.

Wonder if Bob M knows which ones they were his Dad took. 
Sometimes it hurt your eyes and other times not so much.

My first camera was a Brownie.  It took great pictures. Actually better than some of those on the market today.
It was made by Kodak.

Dad had a cool 4 x 6 x8 Kodak Camera and it came with a spool type film you had to thread into the system.
The picture of MOM on the beach was taken with it.

Then the world started to spin and everytihing went quick and fast. 
Movie films of course came out. slides were avaiable. and the list goes on.

Today you may have a cell phone that takes pictures and some of them are better than some camera's.

WE have lots of paper data, book data, records data, 

Are you preserving it correctly or just setting in piles or folders ?

Our Modern? world has acid free, paper, ink, sleeves, folders and storage boxes for us to spend money on to salvage our data.

I definitely use acid free pencil and pens on photos,  One should never write on the picture unless it is the very edge and acid free.

For having family help identify people, I make copies on thumb drives and acid free paper and send to the Reunion groups to post that I can not attend to have them name more people not recognized in our ancient album.
Supplying them with lined paper and numbered pictures so that they are writing beside the picture not on it. 

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? If is sharing photos, with fellow family, I love it but hope there is permission and  people do not think I am stealing a photo.  I love to share and spread the news and photos.

Monday, July 3, 2017

Are You a Historian or Genealogist, or Both?

Are You a Historian or Genealogist, or Both?

Lately it seems we are having to explain that in order to do genealogy with out some of the major hiccups that do happen, one needs to learn some history of the region of which you are researching.
As a avid historian, I was amazed to learn but should not have been that Connecticut and it’s neighbors fought over their boundaries. For all the research and reading I have done and a cousin that lived in Connecticut that shared lots with me I never really gave Connecticut borders a thought, for boundary changes. DUH ME. Right.
It seems every major border probably had some disagreements. After all Iowa and Missouri did, why not every state or even counties.
Struggled for years over the location of some of the JONES family in New England.  It seems New York, Massachussetts and Vermont had some very major disputes.  A cousin related to me that the border moved east then west, then north then back again more than once in one region.
My Great Grandfather’s home was on the Iowa -Missouri border. He died in Missouri and was taken out the door to Iowa for burial in Iowa. The door on other side of house was in Missouri.
After all, Virginia claimed a share of the lower part of Pennsylvania, as did Maryland and promised the new land owners that they were buying Virginia land.  Why? because the rules by British Crown were different for Virginians than Pennsylvanians. Virginia was more settled and laws were (what I think were more fair). Mr. Penn’s agreement was not as gracious as what Lord Fairfax and his other compatriots had gotten some years earlier.
Maryland on the eastern side of PA claimed up several miles into PA for land. PA did the same down into Maryland. So watch the dates for when and where records may be.
This caused a major exodus of Southwest Pennsylvanians to go to Monroe, Belmont and Guernsey Co. etc, area of Ohio.  But not limited to that area. When Pennsylvania claimed this land after the borders were re recorded Mason – Dixon Line.
My ancestor Henry Huffman/Hoffman went with carrying chains as a young man on the early mapping of the border, prior to the final one done.
It seems my family of ancestors seemed to like to live in areas of dispute often. When Dad bought his land, he had option to purchase some that was on other side of creek. Option came about because home and building were in Sonoma County and the creek was boundary to Marin County.  Ultimately he only rented that land from the family and did not purchase it. The taxes were prohibitive on the Marin side and it was barren land with tulle plants covering a good share of it. We used it for summer pasture.
So take the time to read a bit about the region you are going to dig into to better understand the lay of the land and the politics of the region at that time.

Thursday, June 29, 2017

Genealogical Class Tonight at LDS LIbrary

We went to a Genealogical Class at LDS tonight to learn more about DNA and Genealogy.
It ended up being an extremely informative meeting and very educational to those who are not history buffs. One of the attendees I could spend hours talking to about History of old old times.

 What gracious people they all were.  Of course, Shirley Becker and I have gone to this class before to learn something that was being discussed.

It brings into play what I have been talking about off and on all spring and now it is summer.

To do Genealogy justice one must learn a bit of history about the area you are researching.
You need to know the timeframe and what the boundaries were then, the people in charge and the
climate for knowledge at that time.

Was great to have them say Weather is a factor many times in our ancestors past. Shirley talked about people leaving Germany because it was so cold the birds were falling out of the sky frozen.

I know the Lemon Grove Library had a great history series on the WEATHER and when they remodeled the library those books disappeared I was working on the 2nd or 3rd one for our classes.

Library had no idea where they went or could not get them back.

An example would be I learned that people thought country people would perish faster than city people in the late 1700's early1800's.  But when an ice storm hit the north east coast, it was the people in the city that starved to death and froze to death because they relied on others supplying them with food, water, milk, heat and news.

People in the country were prepared and stocked  up on water inside, wood inside animals closed in buildings if possible and extra food and water supplied them. They survived twice as well as the NYC residents.  I never realized how much we were self supporting in rural life and I had lived it.

We read of ships about to dock at ports on east coast and storms shoving them back out to sea and people dying because of the situations. On many ports on the east coast, this was a almost common occurance.

Tonight the talk was on how a desert used to be an oasis and people left because the land no longer supported them.   I think that example happens in many places if we think about it.  The reverse is also true where there was no water and suddenly there is a lake or river and people had to adjust.

Marti Lewis and friends thanks so much for such a great evening of exposure to history and our genealogy of ancestors.

Saturday, June 24, 2017

Genealogy on Facebook, A few I use.
This web page I use for my YOUNG, WRIGHT, COOKE, COOK

As we did our workshop the other day and the last one two, people are still forgetting the data may change due to the time element.  Early America was only finally established 13 colonies.
But prior to that they were even less.  Much of Maine is in the early Mass. Records.  Also some of those records are in Canada or the UK.  

IE:  Jonathon WRIGHT b 24 Oct 1701  Essex, Mass.  died 25 Jan 1784  Hillsborough, NH
 son: Jesse Wright Sr b Pelham Mass, 19 Nov. 1749 d 1784 wife Abbey COOK/e
  his dau: Hannah Wright  b 11 Mar 1781 Lewiston, Androscoggin Co. ME.
  died 25 Dec 1863 Guilford, Piscataquis, Maine.

Job YOUNG Sr 1695 b York Village, York, Maine d 1850 York Village, York, Maine
m to Patience KING b 1701 Kittery, York, Maine, d 25 July 1790, York, York ,Maine
Job YOUNG  b 21 April 1739 York, York, Maine, d 13 June 1827 Belleisle, Annapolis, Nova Scotia, Canada, m Hannah BARNES  b 1745 Paradise, Annapolis, NS, Canada d Belleisle. N. S. Canada
son Abraham Dorrison YOUNG b Franklin  Co. Maine, 23  April 1812 d 9 June 1883 Nashua, Chickasaw Co. IA. USA. m Eliza Grover and 2nd, Hannah OEN/OWEN
dau Hannah m Calvin Fay JONES.

See the movement.

The Pentico/Benninghoff line actually moved about quite a bit also.
The wife's line is YOUNG but from Germany and to PA and so far not known if related to Maine /Mass Young, Probably not.
This name is multi spelt. Penticoff, Penticuff, Bennikuff, Penticoast, etc.
John's deed has five spelllings of his name in the deed.  Wish I could find the sales deed. This line is also found in Lehigh and other counties in PA. including Washington Co. PA.

 I have four proven Jones lines and the 5 is going to slide in I feel strongly about.   This is a great group that works with each other most of the time.  The more shared the more we learn to add or subtract.  Subtracting is as important as adding. It is summer, a couple local cousins migrate to Rhode Island and areas to dig more on our Teague Jones Family.  Thanks so much and so lucky you can live both places.

Teague Jones Sr. Mass. m to Rahamana.
Capt William Jones, Maryland daughter m Duvall.
Jones in Dauphin Co. PA m to Myers. MEYERS, MOYER.
JONES in Greene Co. PA from eastern PA may link to Capt William JONES
JONES in Greene Co. PA that relates to Renssealer Co. NY.

Ah, this is probably my most favorite site anywhere on line. Why because I have about 20 surnames that migrated through this county/PA and at least 10 stayed for part of the families.
I can communicate with cousins on an almost daily basis of any one of the downline family members.
I met many of them in 1993 and alas have lost many since but found more with the help of this site.

Nice to know I have things they need and they always share new things with me.  It fills in the blanks so much easier. It also tells me and our family more about these lines of ancestors.

The biggest thing about this group is it covers when it was Virginia up to current time.  Yes,
If you are looking early in Greene Co. PA you also need to look at Va records then you need to look at West Virginia Records and I have even found major data over in Monroe and surrounding areas of Ohio.

So learning the native ground and time frame is very important to assist you to find data.

Sunday, June 18, 2017

Tracking your Ancestors----- Timelines, Census, Recorded Books.

  Tracking your Ancestors,  trusting you use: Timelines, Census, and Recorded Books.

 As I am from the old school, when census doesn't divulge information that work with a timeline,
 I like to go to published books.  Whether they are surnamed, autobiographies, or history books, they all carry data that genealogists should be using.

 If you are really stuck on computer research then remember to go back to the early computer records shared with society;,,, and others.

 Remember NARA, Library of Congress Records, Military Records, Medical Records both military and civilian.  Recently learning many states share a certain amount of medical data I was not aware of.

Of course Mortuary Records, Land Records, Probate's, Wills, Birth Records, Marriage Records, Annulments, Divorces, written local histories, local newspapers, County records and newspapers.

Do not ignore the states records: look at State Records and Newspapers, State Archives, etc.  I love the State Archives for information.

We have many places to garner information. Bottom line is ask family members, near and far and unknown.

Saturday, June 17, 2017

Transcribed Bible Page GRAVES, John and Sarah


John Graves born 13th of October 1770

Sarah Graves  was born scratched out
the wife of John Graves
was born 4th of October 1772

We were married the
2 nd of J---- Sept 1791

Benjamin Graves born 
of John and Sarah Graves
was born March----
the 7th 1798

John Graves jr the son 
of John graves and sarah
was born august 21 1790

Ellender Graves was born
9th of April 1795.

Margaret Graves born June
19th 1797

other side of line

Thomas Graves was 
born the 10th of March

Samuel Graves was born
July 15, 1802

Rebeccah Graves born
the 8th of November 1805  

Eliz ana Eliza was 
born July the 6th 1809

Susanna Graves
was born June 14?


Graves Bible page shown on previous entry. 

Thursday, June 15, 2017

Research Member needs help, Graves the last name

Shirley Becker at

Anyone out there researching GRAVES.  We need to find kin of this family.

John Graves,   Sarah Graves
Thomas Graves,

They were in New York, some  in PA.   Contact

Saturday, June 10, 2017

Never Ending Resources and Programs

Never Ending Resources and Programs

Having learned one can find a new program or search engine on an almost daily basis, I am hoping
to present to you all some of them.

Tina Sansone's presentation mentioned sites I had forgotten about. O we mortals of the creatures of habit. We find it, we like it,we use it.  Something new comes along and we repeat the process.

How many of you have tried the We're Related application that is affiliated with Ancestry in some format.?

Today I was talking to a long time acquaintance regarding a web site.  I was talking about We're  affiliated with Ancestry.  She was talking about this site.

 Enough  to make you think.  Another one was sent me last week but this is enough for now.

You may want to check them out and see if there  is help to be had by using any of them.

 The We' application I get on my  phone and I-pad.

 Today I was able to confirm 4 matches that came in this past week. Never would my Uncle believe that General Patton was a 3rd cousin. My Uncle had the privilege of defending General Eisenhower for a nap, when  G P was going to interrupt it.  The end was the General E said, "Carry On, I am going to finish my nap." and GP had to wait until he was called to the General E's tent.

I am going to share this with him soon. Since he is still with us.

Learning there are many genealogical programs people use that most of us never hear about.
They also suit the needs of some peoples research better than others.

Marti Lewis uses a very neat program and I keep saying I want to try it.  Judy just shared another,
suspecting there may be as many as 10 to 15 depending on where you live.
Some of them are free, some of them are fee.

So I will let you play with the two mentioned above before we muddy the waters and talk about more of them.

O yes, We' finally agreed that Shirley Becker and I are cousins.  We also found 4 other lines we definitely link on.

Enjoy and tell me if it helps you.

Thursday, June 8, 2017

Updating Society Schedule and News Presented

 Ceasar Castro and I attended the Bonita Vista High School Senior Scholarships and Achievement Awards.
 We presented to Andrew Eide a Check for $300.  He was also given a letter to attend our June picnic  and share his talk with the society. What a great story he shared.
 We like to meet the recipients and their families when we can.
 We have not heard back yet. We hope he comes to the program if he can.

  Our very first recipient is completing her education and we are very proud of her. She was a Chula  Vista   High School Senior.

 Ceasar and Virginia Taylor  did the presentation for Alejandro Valdez, at San Ysidro High School
 for the first  place application. He will be tied up with college data that week and not able to attend  our event. But  he is welcome, and parents to come to another meeting so the society can get to meet  him.

 We want to say, "Thanks", to the members of our society that voted to help fund a second applicant  for assistance.

 We yearly fund for $500.  In the past we have done more but it takes community support to make  that happen.

  The community should know that members wanted to do the second place person and so we had a    vote which they approved unanimously. Then an individual member donated even more to make it to   $300. for the second presentation. Thank you member for your terrific donation.

   Our donation button on the webpage does work.  Amazing what $5 from a multi group of people
   can do to help others.

   Our annual scholarship program is the object of most of our fundraising efforts throughout the year. In an effort to introduce young people to the subject of genealogy, a genealogical essay competition is open to all graduating seniors of the Sweetwater Unified School District and the winners receive cash awards to help with their post high school efforts.
The purpose of the Society is to promote general interest in the related fields of Genealogy, History, and Heraldry by individual and group effort.
These shall include, but not be limited to:
• Encouraging the exchange of group information.
• Coordinating research activities.
• Educating members to assist others in research.
• Acquiring and organizing research materials.
• Acquisition of books, manuscripts, and materials for the Chula Vista Public Library.
Society members are available for assistance at the Chula Vista Civic Center main branch on most Wednesdays from 10 am - noon in the Family History section.

 The new Application is being completed and the same  topic will be presented next year.
We think it helps to have the younger generation some knowledge about Veterans.

21 June We will be presenting the first half of Tina Sansone's Presentation.  It covers all over the world for urls and search engines. This will be at the Lemon Grove Library. 6 to 7:50 pm  There will be some Tennessee data included, but not the major  topic

1 July will be the DVD which Denise Levenick has given permission for me to share. Bonita- Sunnyside Library 1 to 4 pm. Paper or Plastic , Preserving Keepsakes Workshop.

18 July will be discussing our own Genealogy.  Why are you doing it? What are your plans for it? Have you started writing about your family for future generations?

 This is because so many travel and we want you to be prepared at least a wee bit before we loose you, so your family is not totally confused, with what you leave behind for
them to sort through and preserve.

Friday, June 2, 2017

Past and Present Pathways by Tina Sansone presented by CVGS

     Free to attend, Bonita-Sunnyside Library Community Room,4375 Bonita Rd,
     Bonita, CA 91902   1 to 4 pm

            Chula Vista Genealogical Society Saturday Workshop

CVGS Workshop:
"Past & Present Pathways"
Presented by: Susi Pentico for Tina Sansone
I am delighted to be able to offer you this presentation which Tina has given in the east coast area. Yes, she is related.

This event covers much Tennessee sources and east coast sources for researchers to use. It is filled with sites to explore and ideas from another mind. Excited for you all to see her presentation.
Photo of Tina Sansone
Tina Sansone is a Professional Genealogist that lives in Tennessee. She owns Past & Present Pathways, VP for the Second Life Virtual APG Chapter, 2nd VP for ISFHWE and background researcher for WDYTYA.

She recently started doing work with AncestorCloud where she researches and submits to their blog. She is the Genealogoy Editor & Ebook Manager for BellaOnline. She enjoys helping others with documenting for lineage groups and breaking down brick walls. She is also a wife, mother and grandma. She can be reached
Time is 1:00 to 4:00 pm, Please be prompt.

Please register for this event if you plan to attend so we may better prepare the venue.

Saturday, May 27, 2017

James Tanner -- Responding to 21 May, Approach to Genealogical Research.

  James Tanner -- Responding to 21 May, Approach to Genealogical Research.

I sure missed meeting you recently but health issues in family eliminated my arriving to hear you talk.

You just always are so in tune to my thoughts, it is like we already had this conversation and seem to
think along the same lines. I could never post it as elegantly as you do though.

You have no idea how excited I was to see this topic and done by you. I just did a presentation on
who we are and how we became whom we are.  Needless to say I started in Africa and used's map with their permission.

As the modern methods seem to swamp the older standby methods sometimes we have to go back to the original method and prove it out.  With one line I had going to the Mayflower group, I did the footwork for years and contacted many people before a computer was functioning for laymen.
The joy was I was able to get the information, yes it takes time and diligence and determination.
 Last our group did DNA data and it confirmed all the information we had gathered.   Hurray

Not every name will do this and I would suspect it be less than 20 %  that does but it is slowly rising to higher percentages.

Somethings about computers and humans frightens me.  So many have no internet yet in the USA.
Yes, this is so true. Yet these are the people that generally have more information and accuracy than those in a big city.

Being exposed to this about 8 years ago by flying to Michigan, not even upper Michigan but our son's area had minimal to no internet service and what service offered was over the average persons budget. I used the library's system for two urgent matters. I received a call saying data was sent.
Our area had no internet. Library was accommodating, thankfully.  Today, yes they have internet
available.  It still costs far more than in our region.

 Family in Montana has no internet in some areas. Some do but cost is prohibitive.
I recall PRES OBAMA got on TV one day and was notifying American's of something and said he was doing it via email and the internet.  I wonder how many million never got the message. So what other areas are still skimpy with internet?

As a deeply interested history and  geological person, I have followed our discoveries of how old they (scientists) think we are.  Only last week they posted a new date line and found (released) new data on we are much older than they last thought.

Being a Geologist was my 2nd choice if I ever got to a University.

Now we have groups that have large amount of members but as stated by your post. Not many in most of the groups are modern day up to speed. I myself have never taken a formal
computer class but have set in classes as taught by instructors to master more skills. I have paid for assistance to learn more information on computer usage.  I also had a great son that really hand taught me as he learned in college.

Worse, when I taught computer to others in 1974-5, all that is not viable. The concept took off and left many, many people behind.

A friend was in the other day and she said ,"I did all these things on the computer when working and when you decide to go back to it, very little is the same." She then stated she need a brush up class for modern computers.

Our society runs a basic  computer class, we also highlight specific topics and then we have a class to talk about reaching various sites and how to do a gedcom and other activities.  Attendance is spotty at best, especially considering we are members of over 80 people.

Those that attend are making forward progress, but if they do not practice what shown they are not able to remember for next event.  Myself included, so I know it is true.

Some of this applies to our age I suspect. I was taught to teach students how to use a computer long, long before I had one.  By the time I could afford a computer much of what I had originally learned was obsolete.  Worse we were taught a computer can be upgraded and you won't have to worry about replacing it often. That was most of the teachers concerns, was cost and efficiency.

So as we move forward we must go back and pick up the scattered pieces that were left to wither and die.

 I believe that is a must for those of us that that have moved forward.

We are a lot older a species than is yet determined I am sure.  To many things point to a rebuilding of whom we were before and us coming back to it now moving ahead.

After all the writings on the stones in Wisconsin are not Indian as they kept telling people but they belong to early nordic  people that were here 200 + years before Virginia and Massachusetts and Florida.  The Indians were here a very long time and were very knowledged of our environmental
needs to be able to survive conditions.   Rotate where lived, rotate crops, do not deplete supplies, move and keep alert to changes, share when given a chance.  Nor did they waste like we do.
Almost no part of an animal was wasted. A use was found for it.

Thanks for your blog post.

Thursday, May 25, 2017

RUN OVER TO - UpFront with NGS, yes click on it.

UpFront with NGS

Click here and read some great tips to help your research.

I am doing mine via birthdays but pick a method and you will be amazed at how much it can help you organize and present your data for your family to enjoy down the road.  It also shares data with cousins that do not live near and would love to learn more about your family.

Just this morning early like 3 am I read an article about a distant cousins child's struggle to graduate school.

Reading the great report given regarding the student we here can so relate.

Genealogy to me is number one way to track down the medical knowledge we should all have for when we raise our family.  Thankfully my Mother felt that way also.  (She lost her baby brother )

 A long short story that he ultimately died a young teen do to injuries as infant that no one had control over.   We need to know if we have lung issues, heart issues, blood issues, mental health issues in our family.

 Why loose some one if it could have been prevented. I thought 23 and Me was right on  to offer medical knowledge with their tests and never understood the reason to stop it.

 O YES-   INSURANCE ;  That was it.  So our lives are not our lives any more,
such a sad shame.

So go to NGS's page for today and read their blog post. #52 stories.

Thanks, let me know if this helps you.

On my personal blog page I have started doing this via birthdays.

I wrote about Dad then my Uncle'(Aunt's Hubby) then  my Aunt (Mom's sis).

I bet you can do this too.

Wednesday, May 24, 2017

NEW Place on Facebook.

As I was wandering around Facebook the other day I run across another site.

You may want to try it out.

If you are looking for adoption help there are two sites here on Facebook also for that.

See if you can find them????

Sunday, May 7, 2017

Migration of Humans and lots of data and maps.

Google migration maps.. and you can have fun. 

The talk was given starting in Early World and how people migrated some times slowly and some times more quickly to various regions of the European and Asian communities. Mostly in the Mid Eastern area, Starting at the Aegean Sea, Anatolia, Turks,  moving into the other regions at various times.  The Ceasar's conquering of their world moved things along and created even more interesting turn of events. The Split between the Church into 2 then 3 major church groups created even a greater division. 
Persian then and Persia today plays a major roll in the movement of peoples in the world.  

Sometimes we forget we are (I suspect) in the same throes of life that the 1750's to 1860's of the America we know.  Adjusting to influx of people and adapting and changing and modifying life.

It is generally accepted that the Bantu-speaking peoples originated from West Africa around 4,000 years ago, although there is less consensus on the exact reasons for and course of their expansion. Prior to that time, the southern half of Africa is believed to have been populated by Khoisan speaking people

Map of the world by Eratosthenes, circa 200 B.C.E. In antiquity, the names Ariana (Āryānā) and Persis were used to describe the region where modern-day Iran is found.

Much to learn here.

more history here


We are a very old planet in some ways. Humans been around longer than most can fathom.
 We are fighting the adaption worse than some did in the past, and better than others.

Depending how long the person lived in a region, (10,000 years or so)  it brings a tidbit of many nationalities one would not suspect. Exposure was given over and over for us to all be one big melting pot.

Welcome Brothers and Sisters.

Friday, May 5, 2017

Migration and Humans & more Charts and Urls.

Posted: 02 May 2017 03:54 PM PDT
The May 6th Saturday Workshop will be from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. in the Community Room at the Bonita-Sunnyside Library (4375 Bonita Road).  

The subject will be “Migration and Humans” presented by Susi Pentico, plus a follow up on the 1 April meeting to discuss brick walls and share information learned.  Come early to connect your laptops to the Library wi-fi.  

Please register on the CVGS website ( on the Events tab so we can plan refreshments and handouts.

This event is free for all to attend. 

Courtesy of Randy Seaver on Genealogy Cafe. 

Lots of new links and ideas to explore will be shared.

Wednesday, May 3, 2017

Sharing Information on Washington Co. PA.

 This is a link to a lot of information in Washington County, Pa.

Many listings of at least 5 cemeteries.

 Listings of Newspapers early.

 Give it a try and  learn more about your ancestors.

Remember Washington Co. was a part of Westmoreland before becoming it's on county.
Remembering also that Greene Co. was a part there of as was Fayette Co. when
Westmoreland Co was the parent county.

Then you have to remember Virginia was part time caretaker of some of this region prior to the 1790's. Many did not recognize PA as parent state because they did not like that states laws verses Virginia's.

Monday, May 1, 2017

Some Great Tips For for Book Researchers.


 A site I get information from sent this information recently.   I hope you take the time to go there and learn what they have to say.

Since I have a book missing I am going to give it a whirl this weekend.  I wish to get the answer to my Foulk/Myers family.  We had it and lost the link to it at FHC and have not located it again.



  created by Family Tree Magazine. 

Genealogy News & Tips

Did you know that FamilySearch has a free collection of online digitized family history books, journals and other publications? We'll show you how to mine this collection for four key types of family history resources that may hold important genealogy information about your ancestors. Read More...

There are many other topics discussed at various times but I wanted to share about the books.

 I find that books carry so much information and not everything is on the internet.  

 We keep telling you that over and over.  

 Grab a book and read some of the history of the area, the Wills, Deeds, Probate Records.
 Learn what they grew for crops and how the lived.  It fills in some blanks.

Saturday, April 22, 2017



 Wednesday 26 April 2017,  Chula Vista Genealogical Society,  Noon til 2 p m

  John Finch will be presenting information about: " World War 1, the Centennial."
  John will go over various aspects of the war and how it affected peace and populations.

   He will display various military records and documents, he is hoping will help you in your
   research for this time era.

   John has been a member since 1999, holding many major positions over the time period.
   He also belongs to San Diego Genealogical Society and Lee County, Illinois group.

   John has always had an interest in family history but waited until retiring before getting actively
   involved.  He now volunteers at the Chula Vista Library on 4th Ave and F St. every Wednesday
   morning to assist new and seasoned researchers.

   He is USN retired and  SDCProbation Department retired.

   This event is free to all.   We would like to have you sign in if you can ahead of time but you can
    come in without signing in on line.  It helps us prepare for how many will be attending.

    There will be a short business meeting and refreshments following his presentation. He also has

Tuesday, April 18, 2017

Computer Classes 19 April CVCC 4th and F St. Chula Vista, CA

Computer classes will be held tomorrow

The first session starts at 10:15 am and will be led by Gary Brock. This session will deal with basic computer concepts and techniques to help you become more comfortable finding things and managing them on your computer.

Lost Gary's picture.  FREE come join and learn.

We will take a break from 11:45 am until 12:30 pm for lunch.
The second session starting at 12:30 pm is led by Shirley Becker and gives you tips, techniques and practice on how to use your computer to find your missing relatives by doing research on the internet.
Admission is free but seating is limited so register early.

Saturday, April 15, 2017

Are You Following ????????

I know  I give great tips of great researchers on this blog.  I nearly never hear that you have found it a benefit.

So are you following some of the hundreds of bloggers out there?  No I do not follow most of them but I do sneak a peak ever so often to see what they are saying.

Here is one that I have followed and person I have known for some years.  Chuckling when in Michigan we are less than 40 miles a part but she was always off to Roanoke Island.

She recently let me share her DNA blog with you in it's fullness.
Here is her new one for you to click on and or copy paste to your browser and read and join.

Roberta Estes thanks for all you do.

If you want variety you may want to at least read this one ever so often.

This is Thomas MacEntee's blog or one of them.
He welcomes new bloggers and gives tips and hints for all regarding genealogical events. He is a speaker all over the USA. Lives somewhere in or near Chicago.  Yes, I know him and enjoy his passion for genealogy.

Now you should be aware of this one, he is a member of our society.  Randy Seaver.
He covers multi topics and shares data for you to see.

A new found friend and acquaintance. James Tanner and he will be in California soon.

This is my favorite site since was so destroyed. Sadly it costs but it covers several states for one fee.  I preferred it when it was single state but data is there.  

Will get you to the site and much is free to read and entice you to join. The names of people in Wills, and other records  you can see. To read the data you must join.
Click on the link above and you will see what I mean.

It also covers: Georgia Pioneers, Kentucky Pioneers, North Carolina Pioneers, South Carolina Pioneers, Southeastern Genealogy, Virginia Pioneers, Genealogy-Books, and GA Grades.

Check what they give you free so you can find out if they have what you may need.

I still use when data is available, loved  We put lots of work into those states for everyone to share and it was always to be free. is a great site also

Many bloggers are doing surnames and places and you can get data and learn a lot by scanning blogs in the area you are researching.

History Blogs are vital to our research and you should follow one or two in the region you are doing your research in.  National Archives and State Archives have blogs filled with data.
Libraries have blogs and filled with data also.

Do not forget various genealogical or historical societies share information also.

Paid sites.
If you belong to they have sources. has sources.
has data.

I have three other blogs and enjoy a chat room on  I did classes there long ago and may go back to it when all of family is well.

Nothing like being at home and sharing information and knowledge and not have to spend time and gas to get there.

Please find a blog or two let me know what you have learned.

Wednesday, April 12, 2017

Louisiana's Archives in Danger ????

Dick Eastman wrote on his blog today an article about the Louisiana Archives being in danger.

Click on Dick's link and read and then get into action to help save them if you can.

Writing and sharing the data with others is one way to help.

Get the word out. please.

Louisiana’s Archives are in a ‘State Of Emergency,’ According to Local Historians

Details may be found in an article by Lex Talamo in the Miami Herald at: per Dick's statement.

Tuesday, April 11, 2017

Roberta Estes shares... Please read DNA Information

New post on DNAeXplained - Genetic Genealogy

Somehow, I missed the announcement that Family Tree DNA now accepts uploads from MyHeritage. Other people may have missed a few announcements too, or don't understand the options, so I’ve created a quick and easy reference that shows which testing vendors' files can be uploaded to which other vendors.
Why Transfer?
Just so that everyone is on the same page, if you test your autosomal DNA at one vendor, Vendor A, some other vendors allow you to download your raw data file from Vendor A and transfer your results to their company, Vendor B.  The transfer to Vendor B is either free or lower cost than testing from scratch.  One site, GedMatch, is not a testing vendor, but is a contribution/subscription comparison site.
Vendor B then processes your DNA file that you imported from Vendor A, and your results are then included in the database of Vendor B, which means that you can obtain your matches to other people in Vendor B's data base who tested there originally and others who have also transferred.  You can also avail yourself of any other tools that Vendor B provides to their customers.  Tools vary widely between companies.  For example, Family Tree DNA, GedMatch and 23andMe provide chromosome browsers, while Ancestry does not.  All 3 major vendors (Family Tree DNA, Ancestry and 23andMe) have developed unique offerings (of varying quality) to help their customers understand the messages that their unique DNA carries.
Ok, Who Loves Whom?
The vendors in the left column are the vendors performing the autosomal DNA tests. The vendor row (plus GedMatch) across the top indicates who accepts upload transfers from whom, and which file versions. Please consider the notes below the chart.

·         Family Tree DNA accepts uploads from both other major vendors (Ancestry and 23andMe) but the versions that are compatible with the chip used by FTDNA will have more matches at Family Tree DNA. 23andMe V3, Ancestry V1 and MyHeritage results utilize the same chip and format as FTDNA. 23andMe V4 and Ancestry V2 utilize different formats utilizing only about half of the common locations. Family Tree DNA still allows free transfers and comparisons with other testers, but since there are only about half of the same DNA locations in common with the FTDNA chip, matches will be fewer. Additional functions can be unlocked for a one time $19 fee.
·         Neither Ancestry, 23andMe nor Genographic accept transfer data from any other vendors.
·         MyHeritage does accept transfers, although that option is not easy to find. I checked with a MyHeritage representative and they provided me with the following information:  "You can upload an autosomal DNA file from your profile page on MyHeritage. To access your profile page, login to your MyHeritage account, then click on your name which is displayed towards the top right corner of the screen. Click on "My profile". On the profile page you'll see a DNA tab, click on the tab and you'll see a link to upload a file."  MyHeritage has also indicated that they will be making ethnicity results available to individuals who transfer results into their system in May, 2017.
·         LivingDNA has just released an ethnicity product and does not have DNA matching capability to other testers.  They also do not provide a raw DNA download file for customers, but hope to provide that feature by mid-May. Without a download file, you cannot transfer your DNA to other companies for processing and inclusion in their data bases. Living DNA imputes DNA locations that they don’t test, but the initial download, when available, file will only include the DNA locations actually tested. According to LivingDNA, the Illumina GSA chip includes 680,000 autosomal markers. It’s unclear at this point how many of these locations overlaps with other chips.
·         WeGene’s website is in Chinese and they are not a significant player, but I did include them because GedMatch accepts their files. WeGene’s website indicates that they accept 23andme uploads, but I am unable to determine which version or versions. Given that their terms and conditions and privacy and security information are not in English, I would be extremely hesitant before engaging in business. I would not be comfortable in trusting on online translation for this type of document.SNPedia reports that WeGene has data quality issues.
·         GedMatch is not a testing vendor, so has no entry in the left column, but does provide tools and accepts all versions of files from each vendor that provides files, to date, with the exception of the Genographic Project.  GedMatch is free (contribution based) for many features, but does have more advanced functions available for a $10 monthly subscription.
·         The Genographic Project tested their participants at the Family Tree DNA lab until November 2016, when they moved to the Helix platform, which performs an exome test using a different chip.
Incompatible Files
Please be aware that vendors that accept different versions of other vendors files can only work with the tested locations that are in the files generated by the testing vendors unless they use a technique called imputation.
For example, Family Tree DNA tests about 700,000 locations which are on the same chip as MyHeritage, 23andMe V3 and Ancestry V1. In the later 23andMe V4 test, the earlier 23andMe V2 and the Ancestry V2 tests, only a portion of the same locations are tested.  The 23andMe V4 and Ancestry V2 chips only test about half of the file locations of the vendors who utilize the Illumina OmniExpress chip, but not the same locations as each other since both the Ancestry V2 and 23andMe V4 chips are custom. 23andMe and Ancestry both changed their chips from the OmniExpress version and replaced genealogically relevant locations with medically relevant locations, creating a custom chip.
I know this if confusing, so I’ve created the following chart for chip and test compatibility comparison.

You can easily see why the FTDNA, Ancestry V1, 23andMe V3 and MyHeritage tests are compatible with each other.  They all tested utilizing the same chip.  However, each vendor then applies their own unique matching and ethnicity algorithms to customer results, so your results will vary with each vendor, even when comparing ethnicity predictions or matching the same two individuals to each other.
Apples to Apples to Imputation
It’s difficult for vendors to compare apples to apples with non-compatible files.
I wrote about imputation in the article about MyHeritage, here. In a nutshell, imputation is a technique used to infer the DNA for locations a vendor doesn’t test (or doesn’t receive in a transfer file from another vendor) based on the location’s neighboring DNA and DNA that is “normally” passed together as a packet.
However, the imputed regions of DNA are not your DNA, and therefore don’t carry your mutations, if any.
I created the following diagram when writing the MyHeritage article to explain the concept of imputation when comparing multiple vendors' files showing locations tested, overlap and imputed regions. You can click to enlarge the graphic.

Family Tree DNA has chosen not to utilize imputation for transfer files and only compares the actual DNA locations tested and uploaded in vendor files, while MyHeritage has chosen to impute locations for incompatible files. Family Tree DNA produces fewer, but accurate matches for incompatible transfer files.  MyHeritage continues to have matching issues.
MyHeritage may be using imputation for all transfer files to equalize the files to a maximum location count for all vendor files. This is speculation on my part, but is speculation based on the differences in matches from known compatible file versions to known matches at the original vendor and then at MyHeritage.
compared matches to the same person at MyHeritage, GedMatch, Ancestry and Family Tree DNA. It appears that imputed matches do not consistently compare reliably. I’m not convinced imputation can ever work reliably for genetic genealogy, because we need our own DNA and mutations. Regardless, imputation is in its infancy today.
To date, two vendors are utilizing imputation. LivingDNA is using imputation with the GSA chip for ethnicity, and MyHeritage for DNA matching.
Your best results are going to be to test on the platform that the vendor offers, because the vendor’s match and ethnicity algorithms are optimized for their own file formats and DNA locations tested.
That means that if you are transferring an Ancestry V1 file, a 23andMe V3 file or a MyHeritage file, for example, to Family Tree DNA, your matches at Family Tree DNA will be the same as if you tested on the FTDNA platform.  You do not need to retest at Family Tree DNA.
However, if you are transferring an Ancestry V2 file or 23andMe V4 file, you will receive some matches, someplace between one quarter and half as compared to a test run on the vendor’s own chip. For people who can’t be tested again, that’s certainly better than nothing, and cross-chip matching generally picks up the strongest matches because they tend to match in multiple locations. For people who can retest, testing at Family Tree DNA would garner more matches and better ethnicity results for those with 23andMe V2 and V4 tests as well as Ancestry V2 tests.
For absolutely best results, swim in all of the major DNA testing pools, test as many relatives as possible, and test on the vendor's Native chip to obtain the most matches.  After all, without sharing and matching, there is no genetic genealogy!

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