Saturday, April 22, 2017



 Wednesday 26 April 2017,  Chula Vista Genealogical Society,  Noon til 2 p m

  John Finch will be presenting information about: " World War 1, the Centennial."
  John will go over various aspects of the war and how it affected peace and populations.

   He will display various military records and documents, he is hoping will help you in your
   research for this time era.

   John has been a member since 1999, holding many major positions over the time period.
   He also belongs to San Diego Genealogical Society and Lee County, Illinois group.

   John has always had an interest in family history but waited until retiring before getting actively
   involved.  He now volunteers at the Chula Vista Library on 4th Ave and F St. every Wednesday
   morning to assist new and seasoned researchers.

   He is USN retired and  SDCProbation Department retired.

   This event is free to all.   We would like to have you sign in if you can ahead of time but you can
    come in without signing in on line.  It helps us prepare for how many will be attending.

    There will be a short business meeting and refreshments following his presentation. He also has

Tuesday, April 18, 2017

Computer Classes 19 April CVCC 4th and F St. Chula Vista, CA

Computer classes will be held tomorrow

The first session starts at 10:15 am and will be led by Gary Brock. This session will deal with basic computer concepts and techniques to help you become more comfortable finding things and managing them on your computer.

Lost Gary's picture.  FREE come join and learn.

We will take a break from 11:45 am until 12:30 pm for lunch.
The second session starting at 12:30 pm is led by Shirley Becker and gives you tips, techniques and practice on how to use your computer to find your missing relatives by doing research on the internet.
Admission is free but seating is limited so register early.

Saturday, April 15, 2017

Are You Following ????????

I know  I give great tips of great researchers on this blog.  I nearly never hear that you have found it a benefit.

So are you following some of the hundreds of bloggers out there?  No I do not follow most of them but I do sneak a peak ever so often to see what they are saying.

Here is one that I have followed and person I have known for some years.  Chuckling when in Michigan we are less than 40 miles a part but she was always off to Roanoke Island.

She recently let me share her DNA blog with you in it's fullness.
Here is her new one for you to click on and or copy paste to your browser and read and join.

Roberta Estes thanks for all you do.

If you want variety you may want to at least read this one ever so often.

This is Thomas MacEntee's blog or one of them.
He welcomes new bloggers and gives tips and hints for all regarding genealogical events. He is a speaker all over the USA. Lives somewhere in or near Chicago.  Yes, I know him and enjoy his passion for genealogy.

Now you should be aware of this one, he is a member of our society.  Randy Seaver.
He covers multi topics and shares data for you to see.

A new found friend and acquaintance. James Tanner and he will be in California soon.

This is my favorite site since was so destroyed. Sadly it costs but it covers several states for one fee.  I preferred it when it was single state but data is there.  

Will get you to the site and much is free to read and entice you to join. The names of people in Wills, and other records  you can see. To read the data you must join.
Click on the link above and you will see what I mean.

It also covers: Georgia Pioneers, Kentucky Pioneers, North Carolina Pioneers, South Carolina Pioneers, Southeastern Genealogy, Virginia Pioneers, Genealogy-Books, and GA Grades.

Check what they give you free so you can find out if they have what you may need.

I still use when data is available, loved  We put lots of work into those states for everyone to share and it was always to be free. is a great site also

Many bloggers are doing surnames and places and you can get data and learn a lot by scanning blogs in the area you are researching.

History Blogs are vital to our research and you should follow one or two in the region you are doing your research in.  National Archives and State Archives have blogs filled with data.
Libraries have blogs and filled with data also.

Do not forget various genealogical or historical societies share information also.

Paid sites.
If you belong to they have sources. has sources.
has data.

I have three other blogs and enjoy a chat room on  I did classes there long ago and may go back to it when all of family is well.

Nothing like being at home and sharing information and knowledge and not have to spend time and gas to get there.

Please find a blog or two let me know what you have learned.

Wednesday, April 12, 2017

Louisiana's Archives in Danger ????

Dick Eastman wrote on his blog today an article about the Louisiana Archives being in danger.

Click on Dick's link and read and then get into action to help save them if you can.

Writing and sharing the data with others is one way to help.

Get the word out. please.

Louisiana’s Archives are in a ‘State Of Emergency,’ According to Local Historians

Details may be found in an article by Lex Talamo in the Miami Herald at: per Dick's statement.

Tuesday, April 11, 2017

Roberta Estes shares... Please read DNA Information

New post on DNAeXplained - Genetic Genealogy

Somehow, I missed the announcement that Family Tree DNA now accepts uploads from MyHeritage. Other people may have missed a few announcements too, or don't understand the options, so I’ve created a quick and easy reference that shows which testing vendors' files can be uploaded to which other vendors.
Why Transfer?
Just so that everyone is on the same page, if you test your autosomal DNA at one vendor, Vendor A, some other vendors allow you to download your raw data file from Vendor A and transfer your results to their company, Vendor B.  The transfer to Vendor B is either free or lower cost than testing from scratch.  One site, GedMatch, is not a testing vendor, but is a contribution/subscription comparison site.
Vendor B then processes your DNA file that you imported from Vendor A, and your results are then included in the database of Vendor B, which means that you can obtain your matches to other people in Vendor B's data base who tested there originally and others who have also transferred.  You can also avail yourself of any other tools that Vendor B provides to their customers.  Tools vary widely between companies.  For example, Family Tree DNA, GedMatch and 23andMe provide chromosome browsers, while Ancestry does not.  All 3 major vendors (Family Tree DNA, Ancestry and 23andMe) have developed unique offerings (of varying quality) to help their customers understand the messages that their unique DNA carries.
Ok, Who Loves Whom?
The vendors in the left column are the vendors performing the autosomal DNA tests. The vendor row (plus GedMatch) across the top indicates who accepts upload transfers from whom, and which file versions. Please consider the notes below the chart.

·         Family Tree DNA accepts uploads from both other major vendors (Ancestry and 23andMe) but the versions that are compatible with the chip used by FTDNA will have more matches at Family Tree DNA. 23andMe V3, Ancestry V1 and MyHeritage results utilize the same chip and format as FTDNA. 23andMe V4 and Ancestry V2 utilize different formats utilizing only about half of the common locations. Family Tree DNA still allows free transfers and comparisons with other testers, but since there are only about half of the same DNA locations in common with the FTDNA chip, matches will be fewer. Additional functions can be unlocked for a one time $19 fee.
·         Neither Ancestry, 23andMe nor Genographic accept transfer data from any other vendors.
·         MyHeritage does accept transfers, although that option is not easy to find. I checked with a MyHeritage representative and they provided me with the following information:  "You can upload an autosomal DNA file from your profile page on MyHeritage. To access your profile page, login to your MyHeritage account, then click on your name which is displayed towards the top right corner of the screen. Click on "My profile". On the profile page you'll see a DNA tab, click on the tab and you'll see a link to upload a file."  MyHeritage has also indicated that they will be making ethnicity results available to individuals who transfer results into their system in May, 2017.
·         LivingDNA has just released an ethnicity product and does not have DNA matching capability to other testers.  They also do not provide a raw DNA download file for customers, but hope to provide that feature by mid-May. Without a download file, you cannot transfer your DNA to other companies for processing and inclusion in their data bases. Living DNA imputes DNA locations that they don’t test, but the initial download, when available, file will only include the DNA locations actually tested. According to LivingDNA, the Illumina GSA chip includes 680,000 autosomal markers. It’s unclear at this point how many of these locations overlaps with other chips.
·         WeGene’s website is in Chinese and they are not a significant player, but I did include them because GedMatch accepts their files. WeGene’s website indicates that they accept 23andme uploads, but I am unable to determine which version or versions. Given that their terms and conditions and privacy and security information are not in English, I would be extremely hesitant before engaging in business. I would not be comfortable in trusting on online translation for this type of document.SNPedia reports that WeGene has data quality issues.
·         GedMatch is not a testing vendor, so has no entry in the left column, but does provide tools and accepts all versions of files from each vendor that provides files, to date, with the exception of the Genographic Project.  GedMatch is free (contribution based) for many features, but does have more advanced functions available for a $10 monthly subscription.
·         The Genographic Project tested their participants at the Family Tree DNA lab until November 2016, when they moved to the Helix platform, which performs an exome test using a different chip.
Incompatible Files
Please be aware that vendors that accept different versions of other vendors files can only work with the tested locations that are in the files generated by the testing vendors unless they use a technique called imputation.
For example, Family Tree DNA tests about 700,000 locations which are on the same chip as MyHeritage, 23andMe V3 and Ancestry V1. In the later 23andMe V4 test, the earlier 23andMe V2 and the Ancestry V2 tests, only a portion of the same locations are tested.  The 23andMe V4 and Ancestry V2 chips only test about half of the file locations of the vendors who utilize the Illumina OmniExpress chip, but not the same locations as each other since both the Ancestry V2 and 23andMe V4 chips are custom. 23andMe and Ancestry both changed their chips from the OmniExpress version and replaced genealogically relevant locations with medically relevant locations, creating a custom chip.
I know this if confusing, so I’ve created the following chart for chip and test compatibility comparison.

You can easily see why the FTDNA, Ancestry V1, 23andMe V3 and MyHeritage tests are compatible with each other.  They all tested utilizing the same chip.  However, each vendor then applies their own unique matching and ethnicity algorithms to customer results, so your results will vary with each vendor, even when comparing ethnicity predictions or matching the same two individuals to each other.
Apples to Apples to Imputation
It’s difficult for vendors to compare apples to apples with non-compatible files.
I wrote about imputation in the article about MyHeritage, here. In a nutshell, imputation is a technique used to infer the DNA for locations a vendor doesn’t test (or doesn’t receive in a transfer file from another vendor) based on the location’s neighboring DNA and DNA that is “normally” passed together as a packet.
However, the imputed regions of DNA are not your DNA, and therefore don’t carry your mutations, if any.
I created the following diagram when writing the MyHeritage article to explain the concept of imputation when comparing multiple vendors' files showing locations tested, overlap and imputed regions. You can click to enlarge the graphic.

Family Tree DNA has chosen not to utilize imputation for transfer files and only compares the actual DNA locations tested and uploaded in vendor files, while MyHeritage has chosen to impute locations for incompatible files. Family Tree DNA produces fewer, but accurate matches for incompatible transfer files.  MyHeritage continues to have matching issues.
MyHeritage may be using imputation for all transfer files to equalize the files to a maximum location count for all vendor files. This is speculation on my part, but is speculation based on the differences in matches from known compatible file versions to known matches at the original vendor and then at MyHeritage.
compared matches to the same person at MyHeritage, GedMatch, Ancestry and Family Tree DNA. It appears that imputed matches do not consistently compare reliably. I’m not convinced imputation can ever work reliably for genetic genealogy, because we need our own DNA and mutations. Regardless, imputation is in its infancy today.
To date, two vendors are utilizing imputation. LivingDNA is using imputation with the GSA chip for ethnicity, and MyHeritage for DNA matching.
Your best results are going to be to test on the platform that the vendor offers, because the vendor’s match and ethnicity algorithms are optimized for their own file formats and DNA locations tested.
That means that if you are transferring an Ancestry V1 file, a 23andMe V3 file or a MyHeritage file, for example, to Family Tree DNA, your matches at Family Tree DNA will be the same as if you tested on the FTDNA platform.  You do not need to retest at Family Tree DNA.
However, if you are transferring an Ancestry V2 file or 23andMe V4 file, you will receive some matches, someplace between one quarter and half as compared to a test run on the vendor’s own chip. For people who can’t be tested again, that’s certainly better than nothing, and cross-chip matching generally picks up the strongest matches because they tend to match in multiple locations. For people who can retest, testing at Family Tree DNA would garner more matches and better ethnicity results for those with 23andMe V2 and V4 tests as well as Ancestry V2 tests.
For absolutely best results, swim in all of the major DNA testing pools, test as many relatives as possible, and test on the vendor's Native chip to obtain the most matches.  After all, without sharing and matching, there is no genetic genealogy!

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Wednesday, April 5, 2017

Looking in Virginia ? ? ?

Today I received more great information from a site that I have rejoined.  I talked about this site on Saturday  to the Workshop class.   You do not need to join to see what they offer but you can read the actual data as a paid member.  I truly recommend this site to all Virginia researches and they cover other states also.

Saturday we had many talk about not finding people, then learning that New Jersey was part of New York, Maine was part of Massachussetts, etc.

The same applies to counties with in our states.  After all past family members said that there parent was born in 5 different places by their 7 children.  As I started digging I am told that the boundaries areas were liquid.  This information came from several Town Historians in New York.

So you may say New York but it could be MASS that day.  You may say VT and it could be NY that day.  Was either child wrong, possibly not or maybe so.

Chuckling because my parents bought land that had a bit of moving boundary also in modern times.
I told Dad it was a family trait to buy where boundaries were not stable.  It happened in many counties in many states as they migrated across the Eastern area to the Mid West.

So I would love for you all to really look into the blog site and what they offer.

This article talks about Virginia and North Carolina border change.

So check out the various blogs about the various counties and states that they have and present to us to look for information.  If you find enough leads you may consider it worth the nee fee method that they are using.  But places and names, Wills etc are free to check for names so check it out.

Tells a bit about what they hold for research.

Virginia Genealogies and Databases : 300+ Traced families
Images of Wills, Estates, Marriages, Bibles, Emigrants and Origins of First Settlers, Special Collections

Other States that they host are: Georgia Pioneers, Kentucky Pioneers, North Carolina Pioneers, South Carolina Pioneers, Southeastern Genealogy and other data.