The New Year is Coming...... coming....... and almost here.

  The New Year is Coming... coming... and almost here.


  Tis time for a turn over and a roll up and move on is upon us.

  Looking forward to many new faces at our events this year.

  Blessed Happy New Year to everyone, Everywhere.



 We even have a New Moon coming on it's heels to greet us.

  Jan 6, Bonita - Sunnyside Library

  1 to 4 pm  

  More Libraries
  What they can offer you?
  Where you will find them?


  Come share with new faces and help us all find new places.

Merry Christmas and May Your Day Excite

  May Your Day be Exciting, Peaceful, Joyful and Happy.

   Wishing you all the very best to start the New Year.  




     BLESSED MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR




      Jan 6 Bonita Sunnyside Library, We will talk about Libraries.

        1 to 4 pm.  

A BIT LATE BUT HOPE YOU DID THIS.

GREETINGS, to all.

 I hope you did a Xmas letter and shared especially with the younger generations.
Surely you have many younger kin that really do not know much about their families
past or know of their extended relatives.

We live so far apart any more even if we live next door almost compared to a 100 years ago.

Ever so often people post these games to play on Facebook.  They are quizzes about your life.

I save them because they remind me of so many things that we never think to talk about with our grandchildren. Others also for that matter.

Our cultures are more diverse and some are melding some are strictly apart.

My neighbor said to me : "it never snowed here."  Wrong I say, we made a mini snow man put him in the freezer for when DAD got  home to see it." He had shrunk down a couple inches from when we put him in freezer but Dad got to see it.  Yes since 1970 we have had snow here.

Even more fun on the 15th floor looking down on the rim around the building I worked in it had a lace collar of snow. The street had water below the 13 floor.  Streets to warm it melded on contact.


So share the memories to broaden their horizons for the future and about the past.

Xmas Event Now Past.

Xmas Event Now Past

 We had about  30 members in attendance.  We learned several are down with a bug? also.

 We had a nice presentation by our members on what was their favorite Xmas gift.  Many brought
 the item and some had Gary show pictures.

 Amazed at how many wished for a horse.  I got my horse for birthday. I got my doll for Xmas right after the War.  Another member got their horse for a Xmas gift. Two of us shared our first Xmas with a critical ill child and with excellent Dr's and God's Blessings they are both a live today.

Many have been in the military community almost all their life.  More than I was aware of. Love when they open up and talk about their past. It helps to get to know them better.

I think it helped members to understand other members more than before.

We need more time to bound and chat to cement our society into a good working group again.

 We are having a special event in February at our monthly meeting to help bring this about.
 Feb 28. CV Main Library 4th and F St.  

The film clips Gary Brock showed were terrific to get people to relax.  Thanks Gary very much.  We missed Wanda being there.

Many went home with Poinsetta's.  Shirley got the Santa. I forgot to buy the Angel.  Brother had surgery and sorta preoccupied.   Sorry.

Christmas Party South Branch Library Wed 13 DEC.

 Party is at 11

 Bring gift for child

Bring food for family

Bring self and item you last name designates.

Mostly bring self to share and have fun.

If you want to do Gift Exchange bring gift to swap.

Child and family food is for Salvation Army which we have always done.

Do not wrap gift for child. No perishable food for family.  Dry goods, canned goods, etc.

See you there.

Bringing Coffee, and D-Caf and Water for tea.

DNA, DNA, O WHAT A DAY

 Today was the start of the weekend  Conference for DNA in Mission Valley at the Sheraton Hotel.

 Great speakers and topics and interesting fellow attendees.

 It is sold out. I want to renew for next year now. I only got part of a day last year and both days this year.

 If tomorrow is half as good as today was we need to be prepared for next year.

CeCe Moore. It was great to see you doing so well.  Enjoyed meeting your Mom.

I spoke with a potential cousin speaker this year and hope he can see if we are kin like my data is implying.

Wow, and people  thought that the Seven Daughters of Eve was hard to follow. The new terms being used in DNA is almost an over load.  So glad I had 4-H and did this with animals in the 50's.

Sorta sad we did not jump on the wagon way back then.

I am already renaming a couple of terms to separate them from the companion term used.  Once I can keep them separate will use right term.

Wish I had jumped on the band wagon a few years back since I have been so into Medical History and DNA.

Will have lots to share in the coming weeks.  Lemon Grove Library attendees and Bonita-Sunnyside Library attendees. Remember it is always free.

Possessions, Evacuations and Planning

Possessions, Evacuations and Planning


 We got a violent message on our TV and phones in regards to the extreme high winds and the worry of fire.

  Feeling very bad for those who lost all in Montana and Idaho and Washington and Northern California earlier this year.  Some of our family members lost their homes and all their possessions, fortunately we did not loose them.

  Now dear friends and more family are in danger in  Lower California.  Various regions of Los Angeles area, areas east and near and on the border. I suspect near Tecate from the smoke we are seeing.  It seems we are being reminded we are not here forever and we are probably to involved in
personal things than in others needs.

  It is Christmas and Hannakuh.  Are we busy getting gifts for each other or reaching out to those that have no home, clothes (very Minimal) or trinkets.  Hoping everyone is at least saying a prayer that they will get the help and care from others that is so needed.  

  What about all the genealogy, pictures and family possessions that they no longer have?  Have you thought of reaching out and offering pictures and sharing your data with them to replace some of what they lost.  Grandma or Grandpa's picture,  a deceased siblings photo.

   Are  you ready in case you have to evacuate? I know I would never be able to get all my inherited data out of this house because family made me keeper of the keys. Photos help to preserve the pictures of things. Our personal things are together ready to grab and go.

   These fires remind me it is way past time to pass much of this on to the younger keeper of the keys.

    When we looked at this home it was clean and new. When we moved in we had 3 "s of ash through out this house and it was over a year before I think we got it all out.   When my parents burned we found ash 7 years later in the weirdest of places.

  So please take a few minutes and pick up and put together some of the nonreplaceable items, such as photos, and certificates and Medals of Honor from Wars,  Ribbons, etc.

  This applies for floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and earthquakes.  Today we felt at 4.1 quake.
I feel we are so over due for a major shaker.

  Have a great holiday season but give the season serious thoughts of what it truly about and respond in kind.   Blessings on all.

Wed Chula Vista Library 12 to 2? pm Monthly Meeting ANTIQUES

Chula Vista Genealogy Society General Meeting.

“Heirloom Show and Tell”

Come join the fun. 

Noon at CV CC LIbrary 4th and F St.

Chula Vista, CA

Noon

Bring an heirloom and share with group.

I am bringing two pictures.

Could bring the Hoffman picture book ?

Could bring the Jones Bible.

Could bring Mom's doll it is nearly 100 years old.

Could bring quilt squares Grandmother did.

Never got completed in a quilt.

Have you ever quilted.??

See 

You there.

BLESSED THANKS GIVING TO YOU ALL

MAY YOU ALL HAVE A BLESSED THANKSGIVING.

ENJOY THE FOOD

ENJOY THE COMPANY

LARGE OR SMALL

BE THANKFUL FOR WHAT WE HAVE

BE GRATEFUL FOR OTHERS

THANK GOD FOR WHAT WE HAVE

AND SHARE MORE.

Amazing Finds, Takes Time

  I am sure many of you have Genealogy, in various folders and binders and sleeves.

 How often do you go back over these various files to see what you may have finally uncovered?

 This weekend has proved profitable for me in my finds.

 Alas can not locate box for nephew but I will as I dig deeper and clear out more data.  I had it in hand  just a few weeks ago.

 Having located a box from Mom's I had yet to open, yesk yet another one from five years ago.  Found newspaper clippings, a complete set of pictures from our trip to McPherson, Kansas to the MYER"s Reunion,  tape of my parents 50th Wedding Anniversary and other things. Some of these items I suspect should have been shared with others in other places. So setting them aside like the items for my nephew to contact them to see if they would like to have them.

The Hoffman Huffman Book for Research was located and it has much data that I can use since my system crashed a couple of years ago.  Located Duvall data, Foulk data and more Warden information to catalog.

Found a letter from Don Jones from Sacramento, now dcd.   Hoping to locate a phone number for our Gritzner kin in Iowa.  Yes they are Jones descendants.

So maybe go through older files and binders and see what you have forgotten and left behind.

Have fun looking and cataloging the found data.

Blessed Veteran's Day 2017

 This is to say Thank You to all the Veteran's for their service.   Mine started in development of the country to current having a son following his Dad. Thanks Donald Pentico.

Many Uncles in WW2, some kin in WW1. Civil War,, War of 1812, Rev War and other skirmishes.
Some ladies in there too. Most of my Generation were in Korea, Vietnam and other more modern day skirmishes.  

My sisters grandson is at Camp Pendleton as a Marine and we have many others that have served.

It seems so many have forgotten what living through this skirmishs, wars and fights were like.
It affected everyone, the service person, their families and nieghbors.

Loved the article on U TUBE about the Lawyer that bought the tank that  landed at Normandy and made it to Berlin.  He bought it in Europe and had it shipped to his home.

Parked it in front of his home and it brought a reawakening of the past days. The neighbors were sad to see him get ready to move it to it's permanent home, Children climbed on it, people stopped and took pictures of it and everyone sorta stepped back and remembered we were a solid country at one time.

Husband lost an Uncle in Italy. Another Pentico is buried in Punch Bowl.  I am sure there are many since Jacob Pentico fought in CW.

Blessings to all Veteran's of all Wars and Skirmishes.  

Roots Tech and Other Venues There

Roots Tech and Other Venues There


At first I was excited and happy and was desiring to go to Roots Tech.  Then the brain kicked in and
asked me," what will I learn there that will help me in my research?".

Having attempted to learn more, listened to those who have attended and read articles, the answer to me is still not clear.

Doing research in groups is always helpful because what you miss someone else may pick up or see.

Not getting this being the vibe.

Possibly more about technical new advances on computer software and systems.  ??

Wishing there was a ten point or twenty point synopsis of what it would really help me to move my  genealogy forward.

Sure visiting with acquaintances and sharing stories may help.

Understanding it like sells out each time.

With funds being part of this, what is Roots Tech going to give me for the dollars I spend?


Have not been able to convince others to go with me makes me even more wary.  Is this a
computer tech seminar?

IS there someone out there that can give a good definition of the event?  Yes there are speakers and many or most well known.

I recall an early one and there was lots of information explaining it but it was several years ago.

Will it give me more data on information in various states?  Will it help me to master some of my non known computer skills?

Please share with us so we all can grasp this topic better and yes we know Randy is going again.
Randy is very computer sharp so maybe that is why it is key for him.  Yes he also shares his knowledge with us. But the answers many of  us seek are not there.

Guessing that when life and death become a very constant reminder of our time spent here we, some of us, get more careful in what we decide to do.

I think I want to go but I need to know why and what I can gain from it. Is that so bad.

Lost Ancestors presented by CVGS Members Saturday 1 to 4 pm Free Come Join Us

Saturday from 1 to 4 pm at the Bonita-Sunnyside Library we will be presenting an approaching of Genealogy a wee different.

Various members with knowledge of their areas of expertise will be giving you a glimpse of what we will be doing on a larger scale at the end of February.

Come join in and help us to fill in the blanks.

A map of the USA will be shown.  Various areas will be discussed. More areas coming in February and if needed even later in the year more areas can be given.

There will be handouts for your use.

           1. Research Log for each Name

           2. Timeline for each name

           3. 5 Generation Chart

           4. Group sheet for each name surname need help with

           5. Map

Please bring a 5 Generation Chart of your own to refer to filled out the best you can.

Please bring your lap top or I pad if you have one not mandatory. 

After presentations we will break into groups of the area you are in need or want of more help.

As time permits we will be able to probably cover two areas for each guest.

February looks to be very exciting.  

We will be covering: Southern, Northwest,  Southwest, Mid Atlantic,  & maybe New England.

We will have help for other areas by learning the areas you need so we can present them.

Come prepared to tell us where you need the most help?  So we can help you conquer your brick walls.  

Boundary changes will be part of my topic because the Mid Atlantic region was in constant flux.

Our speakers are: John Finch, NorthWest area,  Ralph Munoz, Southwest region,  Bethel Williams will be doing Southern area. I will present Mid Atlantic area. Virginia Taylor will help with Indiana.

If you have knowledge of a specific area we would love to know that and the area.

This is open to all genealogists whom wish to join in and share.

We may even see someone rather famous in attendance helping? 

Paranormal Genealogy....Have you had any experiences?

Many years ago I was blessed to meet Hank Jones. He was also a speaker for our society many times.

We were not able to link our Jones lines at that time. Of course I picked up two more Jones lines since then.

Many of the odd things that happen in genealogy he traced back to not normal events over all.

Many more things than you are aware of, are a form of paranormal experience.

Looking for one thing in a book but suddenly finding data on a line you had given up on instead.
It as explained to me that they want you to find them and are showing you how to do it. A Book falls off the shelf while you are looking for another is the same.

Looking in Land Records and finding things you never saw but had to be there, the time before.

Ironically, having some weird things happen, brought a change on how and what I do for many things more than genealogical.

Nightmares for weeks brought me to bring my daughter away from the  home she was in, in Missouri.  Three days after she was out of the unit a tornado took the unit and most of the block out.
Thank You God for keep telling, to go get her.  Those horrid dreams ended and my stomach calmed down.

Having experienced many of these strange things Hank and I spent time sharing experiences.

I so understand and took college classes to better to grasp the situations.  It is like it is a time,
that we seldom get into.  Others say it is a dimension of space.

The talk about the carrier the other day was so like, yes, much of this talk is so relevant to our lives.

Having a family member that thinks death is dead, sometimes I have to be careful of how I word things.

Often wonder how this affects what we call souls.  Is it the soul of another giving us warnings?
How about research? Ancestors whom may have died on a ship or plane or car accident. Are they trying to tell us something, share something.

Knowing the process can change when that spirit has been resolved, of an issue, someone may be saved or found.

General Meeting " GHOSTS of the USS MIDWAY" Guest Speaker from the Midway.

Wednesday  25 October 2017   12 pm    Free for all.

Chula Vista Genealogy Society General Meeting.

"Ghosts of the USS Midway"

Presented by: David Hanson

Chula Vista Civic Center Branch Library

(365 F Street, Chula Vista, CA 91910)

David Hanson runs the Midway museum's Curatorial Department, which handles all of the items donated to the museum. While his official title is "Collections Manager", he fills the role of what would be the ship's curator, and is the only paid staff member in the department.

David has held this position since December 2004 (not long after the museum opened to the public). In his spare time he is a military historian, and is the leader of the largest paranormal group in the county (the San Diego Ghost & Paranormal Group), which has over 900 members.

He will give a presentation on the "Ghosts of the USS Midway", in which he will discuss incidents of paranormal encounters aboard the USS Midway both during its active Navy career as well as in more recent years as a museum. These stories came from Midway staff members, visiting guests, and in some cases were personally experienced by himself while he led a professional investigative team around the ship during nine months of paranormal investigations. He considers the USS Midway to be one of the most paranormally active sites in San Diego, though it tries not to dwell upon it. Indeed, disclosures to the public of the Midway's hauntings are rare, and do not occur in any print or media.

The meeting starts promptly at Noon with announcements and introductions. Refreshments and fellowship will complete the program.

Please register soon if you plan to attend this meeting so that we may better plan for this event.

Attendance is free

More information and online registration: CVGS General Meeting 

Guest Speaker Lemon Grove Library.-- Carole Sobke

Guest Speaker..

"The Giessen Immigration Society : 

Was my 2nd Great Grandfather a Member?"

Presented by: Carole Sobke

WEDNESDAY   18 OCT 2107

6:00 PM TO 7:55 PM

LEMON GROVE LIBRARY

3001 SCHOL LANE,

LEMON GROVE, CA

COME ENOY ANOTHER TALK BY CAROLE SOBKE.

WE LOVED HER BUTTON TALK ABOUT SACREMENTO, CA.

SHE IS A MEMBER OF THE CVGS SOCIETY AND SDGS AND OTHERS.

20 Random Facts to Add to Your Genealogy.. for future generations to know.

20 random FACTS about yourself that may surprise people.

1. Do you make your bed everyday? Sorta

2. What's your favorite number? 13

3. What's your dream job?  The one I have now, teaching Genealogy.

4. If you could, would you go back to school? YES

5. Can you parallel park? YES

6. A job you had which people would be shocked you once held? Gift Wrapper at Jewelry Store.

7. Do you think aliens are real? Yes, long story and experience

8. Can you drive a stick shift? Yes floor or column

9. Favorite guilty pleasure? Have to think about this.

10. Tattoos? No. 

11. Favorite color? Turquoise.

12. Things people do that drive you insane? Do not get the full facts before commenting.

13. Phobia/fear?  FIRE

14. Favorite childhood game? Hide and Seek later baseball then older basketball. Loved touch football I grew up with lots of boys, cousins and neighbors.

15. Do you talk to yourself?  Yes walk and talk in my sleep.See no rest from my mouth.

16. What story do you adore? The birth of Jesus, Christmas

17. Do you like doing puzzles? Yes

18. Favorite music? Lots of types, almost all types.

19. Tea or coffee? Coffee, 

20. First thing you remember you wanted to be when you grew up?  A newspaper reporter or a teacher.

Do this for your tree. Your Grandchildren may get to know you better.

Time to Pause in Your Life by Susi

It is time  to pause in your life.  Reflect on your past, your hopes for the future and record it for the  next generation or future.

Do not wait until tomorrow, do it now. Add a bit each day,  for tomorrow we are not guaranteed.

Having lost three younger family members in less than a week and a fourth in the week before but was older than I.

If we wait for ??? what is it we are waiting for? It may never come.

My cousin shared all last week all her great plans for the next few months and she is gone now. This I am sure was prompted by the sudden death of her older brother, but still a young man.

Her brother went a few days before. It had her thinking she should begin doing what she was hoping to do and share.  We talked almost daily for some time and at least  weekly before that since her parents became ill.

 Now they are all gone. Just her older brother and her and hubbies children.
I almost do not think they knew what her goals were or wanted. I think she was still forming them.

It was like when she talked to me she became more aware of what she wanted to do.
I spoke to her less than  10 hours before she died. We are going to miss her.

So do not wait, start putting things on paper or computer and gather the things you think are important to your family's future memories.

Look at the fires and the devastation they have done in my home  town area. Almost beyond comprehension except in the early 1960's we had a fire like this.  Gaye LeBaron wrote a very neat article about that fire and it was in Press Democrat today.

Now is not the time to dawdle and wait. Start for your and your family's sake the things you want them to remember and keep.

Looking east look at the Hurricane damage and flooding. It is time to start putting it together.

Tennessee Research, the Vital Beginnings of this Region

   Being of old school I generally start with usgenweb.org.  Having it as a free site for research, and generally carries a  lot of information for most but not all sites.

    

   Having taken and copied a small description of this site,  since I could never do the description so well. ( ) area.

  First we start with the website.     http://www.tngenweb.org/

   Search This Site

   Tennessee has 95 counties.  That is a lot of counties for this small state.

    Now to look into the critical knowledge one must have to do proper research in this area.

    Three Grand Divisions of Tennessee

     Tennessee County Formation Map

    (Tennessee is divided into Three Grand Divisions: Eastern, Middle, and Western. Prior to statehood (1796), and even prior to Tennessee’s territorial period (1790-96) there were legal divisions in Tennessee. North Carolina applied these names (at least) to her divisions/districts in her “Western Reserve” or “Western Lands:”

Eastern Division/District
Middle Division/District
Military Division/District
Western Division/District

In 1806, when Tennessee created her Surveyor’s Districts, two land offices were formed. One in East Tennessee, one in West Tennessee. The slight problem is that the “West Tennessee” of those times is really “Middle Tennessee” of today. It seems that there was some consideration given to the fact that all those lands in the 1806 Congressional Reservation (generally the western third of the state) were Chickasaw lands and perhaps never going to really be part of Tennessee. In any case, it does cause genealogists to take a second look when they find an 1810 White Co TN Militia unit in West Tennessee. After the Great Chickasaw Cession of 1818, the area west of the west waters of the Tennessee River became known as Western Tennessee, commonly called West Tennessee.) 

http://www.tngenweb.org/pre1796/

This page site is very critical to your early research. VERY.

It describes the lands descriptions and boundaries early.

People were there long before Daniel Boone, 1673 in fact.

 

I can express how much importance is involved in grasping the boundary changes and the name changes and the States development both NC and VA and TENN  and KY.

It needs read until you can grasp it solidly as you read data about the area you are looking at..

Tennessee was a dominate  part of the eastern state of North Carolina, on the west side, Virginia on the west side, Kentucky south.

There are links here to study and grasp the movement of the people and when.

Squabble State

 http://www.tngenweb.org/revwar/

A very strong piece of the puzzle lies within this statement of the Volunteer State.

 There is a place to add you REV WAR person on this link. or search for one.

Over 2,200 REV WAR Vet Records are on the Pension Rolls.

Now 3,200 show for them.

Colonial Indian Land Cessions in Tennessee

http://tngenweb.org/civilwar/

A special project for Civil WAR .

http://www.tngenweb.org/cemeteries/       Yes, a link for the cemeteries.

More Sources To Check and Learn

Sources to start with besides usgenweb.org and the states of North Carolina and Tennessee and Virginia History are:

Map Guide to American Migration Routes by William Dollarhide.

Pg 5  Excellent description of the land  boundary dispersement.

Excellent map on page 16 showing the boundaries. Printed for all to see and make copy of.

Also on Page 15 it states it discusses 3 states that had to cede their land so that the Federal Government could end the confusion, creating the Northwest Territory 1787.

Virginia gave up it’s western lands, old Fincastle Co. it became Kentucky, 1792

North Carolina gave up some of its western territories creating Tennessee. 1796

Georgia in 1802 gave up its western lands, which added to Mississippi Territory,  later becoming Alabama & Mississippi.

All but Tennessee and Kentucky became Public Domain lands, which then created revenue for the new country to operate and develop.  Prior to this, USA had no funds.

Tennessee Genealogical Research by George W. Schweitzer, Ph.d, & ScD

Pages 8 to 30 vital for knowledge of Tenn.

North Carolina Research by George W. Schweitzer, Ph.d, & ScD

Pages 5 t0 17 adds to this information to help to know where to look when.

 As you can tell I am a firm follower of George W. Schweitzer, Ph.d, & ScD.

 Having attended several of his talks. I was so blessed.

 You will find his books on the other herein states are also very helpful. But you have to start where the county started to find the answers if you are doing early research.  Learning the history of the          region many times helps to keep from you having a brickwall syndrome. 

 Also Tina Sansone of Tennessee, a cousin has some great resources to check out. She is on Facebook also.

  Want more links?  Try the Historical societies, State Archives, Newspapers, tax rolls, land records, school records, government officials of the time element, genealogical societies as the list rolls along.

  Such as Wills, Deeds, Obituaries, Court Documents regarding buying and selling (fruit, vegetables, animals, trees etc). 

Leave no stone unturned.  Lots of Luck.

Tennessee Research by Susi Pentico presented by Gary Brock Bonita-Sunnyside Library

Tennessee Research

Bonita-Sunnyside Library, Sat 7 Oct 1 to 4 pm.   2017

Gary will present the talk. I have to go out of town.  Thank You Gary and God Bless you for stepping in.

 Using William Dollarhide, George W Schweitzer PhD.ScD, USGENWEB.org and other sources shared by Tina Sansone, my cousin.

It will explain the early development of the State of Tenn, a bit on Kentucky and Georgia, Mississippi.

Our early states are not whom we think they are,  just like us

Anyone wanting copies of the sources can let me know and I will email the data to you.

SusiCP@cox.net or SusiCP1@gmail.com

Bless you all.

Two Things To Think About & Do.

 Okay over on my family blog I did a survey that Shirley Becker's daughter posted on  Facebook.
Ok, don't wrinkle your nose but go look at it.  It will help your grandchildren know a bit about  you.
Especially if they did not grow up near you.

http://susischattyperformances.blogspot.com/2017/10/senior-year-in-high-school-record-it.html

Thinking this is a marvelous way to mention some of your past for the younger generation to be aware of your past.

Now the second thing I want to chat about is another persons blog post today. It was written by Family Sleuther.

Desperation: Why My New Genealogy Research Strategy Is A Cluster Posted: 01 Oct 2017 09:35 AM PDT Some of my close friends say how do you find these clues and add information to your tree or files?  I loved the comment made that is this on this blog page.

(What could drive a family historian to commit precious time to researching the lives of strangers?)

from above mentioned Blog. 

Suspecting my growing up gave me some clues to do this method and listening to Dr. G Schweitzer, really made this idea grow and be used by myself.

After all, my parents grew up in the same community. Several siblings on each family were always interlinked and intermingled. My Aunts, Uncles, even Great Aunts, Great Uncles were in this neck of the woods.  Great Grandad was there on the Foulk side and then got mad and moved back to Iowa.

Dad told me that story with his eyes twinkling.  The HOFFMAN side came from Iowa because the weather was better in Wheatland area of Wyoming than Monroe/Appanoose Co. area of IA. The moved west and Grandad worked for his DUVALL  cousins.   Dad's Dad(JONES) moved from Iowa, Chickasaw area to Wheatland to live with the cousins DREW's. Of course that brought the FOULK line. DAD'S MOM. Then her parents. 

When we visited we hit Grandparents home first then off to other homes to visit the first day and let them know we were there. YUP took me years to figure the LAWRENCE connection.  Dad's side.

Because they were almost always next. Then the SCOTT's and other family members and when young was always told they were friends.  HULSE< HOLCOMB  two names I am still working on but figure they also must be kin.  Dad always called the lady Grandma HULSE and she did Grandmother him all her life, even when we moved away and to California.

Having many more names that interlinked in my parents conversations of their friends and family, I was able to nail down some from Dad and Mom. Some being on Dad's side we did not know the linkage. 

Mom's mother was a SCOTT, father was a HOFFMAN related to DUVALL.   The FOULK, JONES, LAWRENCE, DREW, HOLCOMB, HULSE LINES , can be tracked back once one starts looking.

I know as parents group up and their siblings married it pulled in many more local names to track.

Interestingly some of them about 3  generation's back were also related. 

Cluster research pays off in huge dividends. 

Family Sluether, thanks for writing that post and to learn how to make it work, look at the chart that is presented and read the information.  I do not think we should ever do research with out looking at the whole instead of picking out the pieces.  You do the pieces when you are stuck and will be confused less often using this method.

Write me and let me know if you gave this a try and tell Family Sleuther thanks for writing this to remind me I should speak up about it.  

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DUNLAP, Derry. Westmoreland Co. PA Looking for family. LEMON GROVE Attendee's request

Sone DUNLAP first names that are in some way interlinked.

William, John, Robert, Daniel, Thomas, and Margaret, Elizabeth,  Peggy & James

1.  Have looked at 1790 census  it shows a William Dunlap  2 3 5

 A James McClure was  Co - Executor of  William Dunlap's WILL with son James Dunlap.

The census list a  Wm McCLURE.   No James listed.  for 1790.  possibly in 1800 or 1810.

2.  This  William DUNLAP made a WILL, 21 March  1822,

It states, sealed in presence of  Thomas Dunlap,  Daniel Dunlap and William Dunlap.

Approved  be the two subscribing witnesses.
3.  25 May 1834  same day recorded  no  letters taken out.

James Dunlap got land and cattle

Peggy Dunlap got filly  ?  and use of house and other pertinent items.

Their brother and sister was to receive the divided  up other items  done by James Dunlap and James McClure.

4.  1820 census lists 5 Dunlap's or is it 4.  Very hard to read.  Thomas, William, John, a possible Robert and even blown up not sure of other Dunlap name.

5.  Having Margaret Dunlap's Will 17 Feb. 1826
 Executed 2 June 1826

5 children living: Robert, William, John, James  and  dau Mary wife of Robert Sprowls
   James is away
3 grandchildren
: John. Susan & Jenni Dunlap children of Thomas dcd   have his Will.
16 Aug 1816

**** Smith  & Robert Dunlap witness    Smith may be Geor?
She had 6 children.
Westmoreland Co.  Pa

Derry Twp

6.  Thomas Dunlap ,  1422  ( father of Archibald, ) wife Jemima,   grandson Thomas
      ( 25 acres land near Archibald).
      James  100 acres   got from Hutichers.
      Jeanie  m to Moses Culberson, lot in Williamsport, Washington Co., Pa
      Jemima  m to John Wherry
      Jane & Jemima,  mixed items
      David?Daniel over plush money if any after bequeaths
      4 July 1839
      Codicil p437  John Robison
  Executors
Moses Cubberson & Archibald  son    spelt both ways

7.  A Will of Thomas DUNLAP, wife Jemima and son Archibald.and Grandson  Thomas.
To be given a considerable amount of money. can not read dates or signatures.

8.

 in the Pennsylvania, Land Warrants and Applications, 1733-1952

Name:	Thomas Dunlap
Warrant Date:	3 Mar 1812
Warrant Place:	Derry, Westmoreland

Name:	Thomas Dunlap
Warrant Date:	8 Jan 1814
Warrant Place:	Derry, Westmoreland

1800 census  lists both

  Thomas Dunlap  and William Dunlap

1810 census  

Name:	Thomas Dunlap
Home in 1810 (City, County, State):	Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10:	4
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44 :	1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44:	1
Number of Household Members Under 16:	6
Number of Household Members Over 25:	2
Number of Household Members:	8

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1800

Name:	Thos Dunlap
Home in 1800 (City, County, State):	Unity, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:	1
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44:	7
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25:	2
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over:	1
Number of Household Members Over 25:	8
Number of Household Members:	11

1820

Name:	Thomas Dunlap
Home in 1820 (City, County, State):	Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Enumeration Date:	August 7, 1820
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15:	1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 18:	1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:	4
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over :	1
Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture:	1
Free White Persons - Under 16:	2
Free White Persons - Over 25:	2
Total Free White Persons:	8
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other:	8

1830 census

Name:	Thomas Dunlap
Home in 1830 (City, County, State):	Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29:	2
Free White Persons - Males - 60 thru 69:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 60 thru 69:	1
Free White Persons - Under 20:	1
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49:	3
Total Free White Persons:	6
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored):	6

1840 census

Name:	Thomas Dunlap
Home in 1840 (City, County, State):	Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39:	1
Free White Persons - Males - 70 thru 79:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 60 thru 69:	1
Free White Persons - Under 20:	1
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49:	1
Total Free White Persons:	4
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves:	4

1790 census

Name:	Wm Dunlap
Home in 1790 (City, County, State):	Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16:	3
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over:	2
Free White Persons - Females:	5
Number of Household Members:	10

1800

Name:	Wm Dunlap
Home in 1800 (City, County, State):	Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10:	1
Free White Persons - Males -10 thru 15:	1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:	2
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over:	1
Number of Household Members Under 16:	3
Number of Household Members Over 25:	2
Number of Household Members:	8

1810

Name:	William Dunlap
Home in 1810 (City, County, State):	Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10:	1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15:	1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:	2
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over :	1
Number of Household Members Under 16:	3
Number of Household Members Over 25:	2
Number of Household Members:	7

1820

Name:	Wm Dunlap
Home in 1820 (City, County, State):	Derry, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Enumeration Date:	August 7, 1820
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:	2
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25:	1
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44:	1
Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture:	1
Free White Persons - Over 25:	2
Total Free White Persons:	5
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other:	5

robert - elizabeth

d elizabeth  m joe ardtman

margaret mccreey 

thomas son

1841

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