Monday, April 13, 2015

From Cliff Lamere, New York Research... Remember Brick Wall Working on Wed eve 6 to 8.

Two items of note, Lemon Grove Library 6 to 8 pm  Brick Wall Breaking.

Vital Information on Church Records in early New York. Thanks Cliff.

Cliff Lamere has saved some great NEW YORK files and has authorized me to post notice here.

On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Cliff Lamere via wrote:

Betty Fink has allowed me to put her church vital records transcriptions 
back on the internet.  As I worked with her transcriptions, I realized 
that the one for a Lutheran Church in New York City contained at least 
eight baptisms which took place in Albany. 

The first churches in the Dutch colony of New Netherland were Reformed 
Churches, often referred to as Reformed Dutch Churches.  The Albany 
Reformed Church, the first church in upstate NY, formed in 1642 and 
began its vital records in 1643 (although the records before 1683 have 
been lost).  In the Albany area, Lutherans were not allowed to build 
their own church until the English took control of the colony in 1664.  
The first Lutheran church in Albany was built in 1670.  There must have 
been no Albany minister in the period of 1725-1727, or the church was no 
longer in use, because eight Lutheran baptisms were performed in Albany 
during those years.

In 1710, the Palatine Germans settled in two "camps", one in Germantown 
(East Camp in Columbia Co.) and the other near Saugerties (West Camp in 
Ulster Co.).  They were nearly across the Hudson River from each other.  
I suspect that the need for marriages and baptisms there resulted in a 
traveling minister sent from the Lutheran Church in NYC to fulfill the 
need for the Palatines as well as the Germans in other upstate communities.

Five of the baptisms were conducted in the English Church in Albany.  
That would be the forerunner of the present St. Peter's Episcopal Church 
on State St.  At the time, it was in the middle of the present State 
St., just below Fort Albany which was also in the middle of the street.  
Fort Albany was the fort built by the English to replace Fort Orange, 
the Dutch fort that flooded periodically (due to its nearness to the 
Hudson River).  The church, which was very near the English fort, was 
built to serve the soldiers at the fort, visiting dignitaries to the 
fort, and the English families in the Dutch community. 

The eight baptisms/christenings are below.  Note:  Herryes and Klauw 
would sound close to Harris and Clow (similar to cow).  A name ending in 
-jte was a Dutch spelling of a female name and sounded basically like -chuh.

Because tables are not allowed in these emails, be aware that the 
records below are in the following format.

Names of Parents
Child, plus age or date of birth
Location where the baptism took place
Sponsors (witnesses)

Nov 6, 1725
Johannes Beus

Abraham, 2 mos. old

at the house of Samuel Brouwer near Albany
Johannes Brouwer and Seidje Brouwers


Nov 6, 1725
Johannes Beus

Abraham, 2 mos. old

at the house of Samuel Brouwer near Albany
Johannes Brouwer and Seidje Brouwers

Dec 28, 1725
Unknown black man
Betty, negress
Servants of Rienier Van Euvere

Jannetje, 3 years old

at Albany
Betty, the grandmother, widow and servant at Willemtje Braadt's

Apr 5, 1726
Johan Jacobson Van Hoesen

Abraham, born Apr 1

at the English Church, Albany
Klass Van Loon and wife, Racheltje

Apr 5, 1726
Johan Jacobson Van Hoesen

Isaac, born Apr 1

at the English Church, Albany
Jurge Klauw and wife, Maretje

Oct 2, 1726
Thasm Dewit

Isaak, 2 mos. old

At the English church, Albany
Isaak Vryer and wife, Elisabeth

Oct 3, 1726
Isaak Lagrangie

Koenraad b 23 Sept

at the Noormans-kil
Koenrad Borghard, Annatje Lagrangie

Oct 9, 1726
Peter Born
Liesabeth Herryes

Johannes abt 11 mos. old


chr: English Church, Albany
Gerrit van Hoesen
Maretje, wife of John Donbaar

Oct 26, 1727 
Tobyas, slave of Hannes Symes at Normans-kil

At the English Church, Albany
Barend Ebbersen and wife, Elsje


Cliff Lamere

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