Workshop Saturday, Bonita-Sunnyside Library 2 May 2015

Working Workshop Saturday 10 am to 4 pm

 2 May 2015  Presented by CVGS,  Educational

Bonita - Sunnyside Library 10 am to 4 pm

Speakers:

   10:15 to 11:15

   Randy Seaver   Exploring FamilySearch Records

  11:15 to 12:00 Workshop

  12:00 to 1:00 Lunch/ Doorprize.

 1:00 to 2:00

 Shirley Becker  Overcoming Scotoma! Starting Over!

 w/ workshop

 2:00 to 3:00

 Bethel Williams  Southern Research

 w/workshop

 3:00 to 4:00

 Susi Pentico       Archives, Libraries and Societies

 w/workshop

Hands on Event for all, with help.  : > )

Please bring your: Brickwall, a laptop, pencil and paper and questions. 

Be ready to do hands on events for each topic to learn more methods of research.  

If you do not have a lap top come anyway you will learn a lot. 

Breaking for lunch. Coffee and Water will be provided.

Bring or go out.  A door prize to be provided.

Reaching Out, Sharing and Caring Allen Family, Shaw Family. Pentico Family

Today, is here, in many places it is almost over.  It comes with many twisted thoughts of what life  brings.

Will be learning if surgery was successful on Wednesday, but preliminary says yes.  Wondering if rejoicing brings others pain.

We are blessed with a beautiful Daughter- in -law and now her family is feeling major pain and stress. We hope that Berry Tyler Allen is found soon.

 Her family member is missing. Having met most of her family and extended family I can feel the stress to a certain extent.  What if it was my own child or cousin or niece or nephew?

When we have blank spots in our genealogy is this what has happened to them?  They just have disappeared.  Reading a post today that stated a wife had run off 18 times in the 1830's is rather alarming to me.  Yes, that post was in my mailbox this am. Do not think it was kin. But as I find my cousins families and my 2nd and 3rd cousins families I grew up with we have had this happen on Mom's side in the last ten years. Only difference was it was of his own choosing and we do not know why.   We know his grieve was heavy and strong. I actually found him once and talked to him for a half hour. Then hoping he would stay in touch nope, did not happen.

I grew up with this person he is my age and we shared many adventures in life for many, many years but suddenly after his older brother died his grieve was strong and he was going to see his living Aunt.  He just disappeared 20 miles from his Aunt's home in Nebraska. He communicated with us from California all the way until arriving at her home.  He called at his last gas stop he was almost there.  Why did he not show up? What happened, we never learned anything?

My Great Grandfather went missing on Dad's side with a  load of wheat to Russia in the 1930's?
What is with people that just go missing?

We know that others can take them, drug them and cause everyone major pain.  Our world just is a crazy, crazy place.

The Earthquake in Canada yesterday was heavy but damage was not, so far we heard.  The earthquake in Nepal today is mind blowing for us on the outside looking in.

With our new guest from Sudan and the story that was shared, we need to be thankful for all that we have.

Some how we have to start paying attention to family more and the news and outside world less?
Maybe an hour a day of just chatting with family via phone or in person and not have on tv, radio or other distractions will help us pick up on a vibe that we missed.

I so loved the learning that the Indians did by sharing stories around a campfire and educating the children to learn of their past, so they would know how to face the future.

Some of that culture was passed down to us but we are not as observant of it as we should be I fear.

Yet, even reading stories of the Indian families lives there was a missing link ever so often.

To our extended Allen and Shaw families, our prayers and thoughts are with you.

Earth Day, What did your Ancestors say?

Earth Day, What did your ancestors say for us to have an Earth Day.

How often have you read a census page and the description of the head of household said, "farmer"?

How often have  you checked to see what they really did besides farming to put food on the table and feed themselves during the winter months?

Family always said we come from a long line of farming people.  But when putting meat on the bones of those people, farming was a way of life but not their livelihood.

Today, we go to the store for milk, butter, eggs and food. At least most of the people whom live in large cities do this steadily. I remember a child coming home and had said he heard that milk came from  a container from the grocery store.  Well, he knew different because he had milked a cow, by hand and later learned by machine(when older).

I took a picture to school showing the class the cow he had milked. Yes, this was the 1960's.

Unless you have a roof top garden in the city few people can grow any vegetables or fruit. Thankfully today I think more are aware of what little space it takes to help grow a portion of your own food.

The Indians preserved our earth probably the best of most humans. Their lives depended on it to much to litter it, destroy it or abuse it.

So go back to 1700, few stores, that mostly held staples, ie sugar, flour and molasses, salt, and
maybe other items besides leather and cloth even existed. It was all made at home if possible.

So Earth Day represents the Lawyer who tended his crops for food and then carried out a business for a certain amount of hours a day. Even our government officials of the days of old really worked, not like today. They knew what the meaning of work was.

Having found an ancestor who built a new style stairs still in use today,  & he built (with help from neighbors) bridges, churches, and schools.  He was truly an Engineer but he called himself a Farmer.

He helped many master little learned ideas to make the buildings and bridges safer.

Earth Day is to remind us we have a ground to save and water to use appropriately and not necessarily lavishly.

Earth Day reminds me, that I wish I could find a Wringer Washer because then I could have a lawn and not be wasting water.  Lawns do help filter the pollutants in the air when dealing with allergies as do trees and shrubs and other plants.

A wringer washer could save our day.  The Wash water was used more than once. It was then sent down the drain.  The rinsewater then became the washwater.   If lucky you  only had to refill the tubs twice and the rinse waters all went out to the grass, lawn, garden or saved for later use. Generally never more than a day. The only water that went to the sewer was the wash water for safety purposes.

 Stating this in the 1990's I said houses need replumbed and certain water dumped should have been recycled to our yards and car washing and window washing etc.

Having recycled water several years ago when we had a water shortage.  Almost all of my rinse water went to the outside for use. Yes, I used the right detergent and I kept my yard neat.

Having hauled water in a milk can in a wagon from our distant well to the house many summers taught me early to not let water run, rampant. Dishwashers can use way to much water if you do not
set them right. But you also have to care for the dirty dishes correctly.

Do not overload a washer but be observant of what you wash. Do not run the washer for two things, think first, it may be your next glass of water that you just let run down the drain.

So remember just because it said farmer does not mean they did not actually have a different job.
Many of them did at least until about the 1940's and 1950's.

Reminds me of Mr. Gallentine when the Frenchman went looking for him. He was plowing a field and our esteemed French guest was stunned he did his own work.  Now do you know whom that was?

We are good people but we have to go back to being thrifty observant people again.

Mentioning something Dick EASTMAN wrote about last Fall. BACK UP DATA

Dick Eastman wrote an interesting article about DropBox and the troubles it was having last fall October 2014.   Dropbox Has Deleted a Bunch of User Files From the Cloud | Eastman

Why bring it up now, because in the last of November my Back Up system died. No warning, no reason why, just quit. Where it was purchased was asked to send  it out to see if data could be recovered.  They forgot to do it, when I showed them the paper we had agreed on and I had paid to have it done.  Because it was pre Christmas Holiday I just brought it home I did not want it lost.

I have three books started on it and some very important files.  I fortunately had another back up drive I had connected earlier in the Fall because, just because my tummy said so.
It did not have all the files I prayed it would.

I had used another program no longer accessible.   So I am happy some of my Genealogical Research is on a Cloud Program, where other  programs are not.

When one is technically challenged, you can make errors quickly without realizing it.

Did you read the article about the thumb drives the other day and the risk taken there also?

(+) How Long Does a Flash Drive Last?   Also by Dick Eastman

Some how as an old paper and pencil person, it still seems to be the best over all system, except for flood and fire.

Having lost probably 7 years of intense research I wanted to let all this blogs followers think about making sure they run a back up system for you Research Data and a blog that is stored in the Cloud.

I have Reunion on my Mac computer and I have MyHeritage on my computer, I have a tree on Ancestry. I had PAF  for Mac in the Beginning, wish I could open that old program it was the largest program I had  filled out for about 10 years.  I do have it on discs.

I have considered getting a mini computer PC  orientated so I can use Roots Magic.  What an awesome program that is.  I gave it to my family members with PC's.

20 years later and I am still stumbling around in Reunion. A distant cousin created that program long ago and I am thankful he did because we had MAC not PC and could not use FTM which my cousin had and used. I learned to do genealogy on her PC and FTM program so long ago in early 90's.
Then on PC's at LDS Library's.  I used MAC at the Schools and taught the children how to use them in the 70's yup so long ago.  like suitcases on a desk.  Could not afford one back then at all.

Having gone to the NGS in San Diego in 1995, is where I met up with Reunion creator.
I snapped it up because LDS kept saying PAF for MAC was going away not enough people using it.

That was a shame I could maneuver around in that program with out getting lost.

Enough rambling, but make sure you have some back up associated to what research you are doing and have done.  I do not care if it is a Thumbdrive with a tree, another for notes etc,   Disc, Back Up Drive, (which are not expensive like long ago).  I think the Cloud is a great way to go. Which means  choosing a program to back up your regular program that would be Cloud based.

I was able to attend various talks not lectures at Jamboree my first year to be aware of need of a quality and of ease to use program.  I had Reunion in 1995  started with  PAF for MAC, 1989, then Geni.com, not a bad program, liked the ease of MyHeritage.com even better. Won an subscription to Ancestry and then put tree there.  I do most of my work on MyHeritage.com and Ancestry.com.

 I read what kin puts on Geni.com, just do not comprehend what some people are doing there.
 Not sure I care at this point about 800 A D.

My goal was to get my surnames across the water and then fleshing them out if time permitted.
Fortunately, some lines are done by others and are accurate, some are done but definitely not accurate.  Each person I have entered I have verified each time at least 3 times solidly long before others created new guidelines.

On our Family webpages what Helen and I put up is documented well. What some other lines added
sharing their resources, we can not verify them it is up to them to do it. I recently learned at least four distant cousins systems are no longer viable or work.. A shame all that work is mote now.


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Bring Your Brick Walls to Meeting. 6 to 7:50 pm Lemon Grove Library

You asked for a Brick Wall meeting, it is almost here.  If you know your coming and what Brick Wall you want to attack a note ahead of time would be nice but not necessary.

I can be reached at SusiCP@cox.net .  We will cover the basics and then get into the
gristle and muscle of digging for answers.

Having been constantly told the answer is in front of  your face and yet we never see it, when we share the Brick Wall with others many times the answer stares us in the face.

Let us hope that we all have some success and we will probably do this more often.

Also today having received this note about an acquaintances blog post, am sharing the
site for you to go read.    http://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/

Where do you store your stuff topic.  

See you Wednesday evening, tomorrow by 6 pm.  Lemon Grove Library. It is FREE.

From Cliff Lamere, New York Research... Remember Brick Wall Working on Wed eve 6 to 8.

Two items of note, Lemon Grove Library 6 to 8 pm  Brick Wall Breaking.

Vital Information on Church Records in early New York. Thanks Cliff.

Cliff Lamere has saved some great NEW YORK files and has authorized me to post notice here.

On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Cliff Lamere via wrote:

Betty Fink has allowed me to put her church vital records transcriptions 

back on the internet.  As I worked with her transcriptions, I realized 

that the one for a Lutheran Church in New York City contained at least 

eight baptisms which took place in Albany. 

The first churches in the Dutch colony of New Netherland were Reformed 

Churches, often referred to as Reformed Dutch Churches.  The Albany 

Reformed Church, the first church in upstate NY, formed in 1642 and 

began its vital records in 1643 (although the records before 1683 have 

been lost).  In the Albany area, Lutherans were not allowed to build 

their own church until the English took control of the colony in 1664.  

The first Lutheran church in Albany was built in 1670.  There must have 

been no Albany minister in the period of 1725-1727, or the church was no 

longer in use, because eight Lutheran baptisms were performed in Albany 

during those years.

In 1710, the Palatine Germans settled in two "camps", one in Germantown 

(East Camp in Columbia Co.) and the other near Saugerties (West Camp in 

Ulster Co.).  They were nearly across the Hudson River from each other.  

I suspect that the need for marriages and baptisms there resulted in a 

traveling minister sent from the Lutheran Church in NYC to fulfill the 

need for the Palatines as well as the Germans in other upstate communities.

Five of the baptisms were conducted in the English Church in Albany.  

That would be the forerunner of the present St. Peter's Episcopal Church 

on State St.  At the time, it was in the middle of the present State 

St., just below Fort Albany which was also in the middle of the street.  

Fort Albany was the fort built by the English to replace Fort Orange, 

the Dutch fort that flooded periodically (due to its nearness to the 

Hudson River).  The church, which was very near the English fort, was 

built to serve the soldiers at the fort, visiting dignitaries to the 

fort, and the English families in the Dutch community. 

The eight baptisms/christenings are below.  Note:  Herryes and Klauw 

would sound close to Harris and Clow (similar to cow).  A name ending in 

-jte was a Dutch spelling of a female name and sounded basically like -chuh.

http://www.clifflamere.com/BettyFink/NYC-Lutheran-bp1725-1731-BettyFink.htm

Because tables are not allowed in these emails, be aware that the 

records below are in the following format.

Date

Names of Parents

Child, plus age or date of birth

Location where the baptism took place

Sponsors (witnesses)

_________________________________

Nov 6, 1725

Johannes Beus

Maretje

Abraham, 2 mos. old

at the house of Samuel Brouwer near Albany

Johannes Brouwer and Seidje Brouwers

_________________________________

Nov 6, 1725

Johannes Beus

Maretje

Abraham, 2 mos. old

at the house of Samuel Brouwer near Albany

Johannes Brouwer and Seidje Brouwers

_________________________________

Dec 28, 1725

Unknown black man

Betty, negress

Servants of Rienier Van Euvere

Jannetje, 3 years old

at Albany

Betty, the grandmother, widow and servant at Willemtje Braadt's

_________________________________

Apr 5, 1726

Johan Jacobson Van Hoesen

Rachel

Abraham, born Apr 1

at the English Church, Albany

Klass Van Loon and wife, Racheltje

__________________________________

Apr 5, 1726

Johan Jacobson Van Hoesen

Rachel

Isaac, born Apr 1

at the English Church, Albany

Jurge Klauw and wife, Maretje

__________________________________

Oct 2, 1726

Thasm Dewit

Mary

Isaak, 2 mos. old

At the English church, Albany

Isaak Vryer and wife, Elisabeth

__________________________________

Oct 3, 1726

Isaak Lagrangie

Maretje

Koenraad b 23 Sept

at the Noormans-kil

Koenrad Borghard, Annatje Lagrangie

__________________________________

Oct 9, 1726

Peter Born

Liesabeth Herryes

Johannes abt 11 mos. old

Illegitimate

chr: English Church, Albany

Gerrit van Hoesen

Maretje, wife of John Donbaar

___________________________________

Oct 26, 1727 

Tobyas, slave of Hannes Symes at Normans-kil

At the English Church, Albany

Barend Ebbersen and wife, Elsje

______________________________

Cliff Lamere

Cemeteries, Coal Mine Disasters, Timelines and much more Information.

After wandering over to one of my webpages, my cousin and I have I offered you a great tool to help you with your southwestern Pennsylvania Research.

We have lots of cemetery records on this site for Greene Co. PA , Washington Co. Westmoreland Co. Fayette Co. and other areas.  Not everything needs to be a blog page.

Web page address is here.


Eastern United States Research

This site can share data with you to help you see why Timelines are important.

 Who was in office when, where and what was happening.

http://www.animatedatlas.com/timeline.html#1820

Roger Eastman posted this.Mind Maps for Genealogy

MindMaps for Genealogy sounds awesome so hop over to  Mr. Eastman's site and read his review.

Book Review: MindMaps for Genealogy

Sounds like it will shake up our research and the fall out might be really helpful.

Look What I Found, Stumbling Around DAUPHIN CO. PA and PA

Looking for  my old queries I found some neat things for us all to look at.

Alas, I have to remember how to use the WAY BACK  MACHINE for a specific sight that is not showing up.

If you go to this link and click away as you read you find general links for PA, Cyndi's List Links,
historical links, map links, and the lists go on.

Explore Pennsylvania 3

Baptismal Records

Henry Myers unknown if related to mine but they have WILLS, OBITS, CEMETARY data.

Dauphin County Regional Resource Center is the title of the pages. Under the Explore  Pennsylvania

link.


If your looking for this region of PA it would pay you to take a look.

9 April 1865 The Civil War Ended ? ?

9 April 1865  the Civil War ended.  Yes on paper and in the battlefields it finally stopped. The blood shed was horrid.

Today historians still argue over whether it was about Slavery or Economics.  I have read books that tend to make it sound like both played a  major part in it happening.

Our Servicemen from the Military Academy had fought on both sides, many were excellent men of integrity.

Some families had fought on each side against each other. The loss was staggering to our peoples of the United States.  The payment by the men and women who served and children was staggering.

I hope you rang a bell at 3:15 eastern time to remember this event.

Not hearing bells in our area makes me think, the government here ignored it and went on in oblivion to the importance of remembering the fallen.

As you do your research, you may suddenly realize, moves were because of the War and the devastation it caused to that family unit.  Burned homes, destroyed fields and fences, not to mention the mangled bodies of the people involved in this War.

Every state was affected though many bury it and never think of it. Others are reminded of this War  often.

Randy Seaver sent us a challenge from Genea-Musings

Since he is challenging us to answer the questions on a blog called "Lonetester HQ",  I was wanting to pass this one so you do not miss it.

It should help with your timeline and flesh on the bones of your research.

http://www.geneamusings.com/

The title is:  Saturday Night Genealogy Fun - The  "When I Was Young" Genea-Musing, Part 1.
This is only the first five questions of 25.


I will post my answers here.

1)  Do you (or your parents) have any memorabilia from when you were a baby? (ie. baby book, lock of hair, first shoes etc.)

 I have my baby book, lock of hair, baby cowboy boots and tons of pictures, since I was first born.  Very light blonde hair, my first shoes were boots. I actually learned to ride before I was walking both parents told me. Family has pictures of me on the horse with one of them and I had held the reins while the horse moved around.   I love horses.

2)  Do you know if you were named after anyone?

 Parents picked my name to be different, only to learn that in Grandma Foulk Jones family there was a Great Aunt Susan Flickinger.   tee hee hee

 Something about families just can't get away from family names.

3)  And do you know of any other names your parents might have named you?

 Yes, Dad wanted a boy first and I was it. Seems he almost always called me Pete.  If he called me on the phone and started with the name Pete, I knew I had to pack bag and get on plane or in car and head home.  Mom did not use it as much, she had other words to get my attention.

I miss hearing Pete, since he is gone. I have been called: Susan, Susie, Sue, and my name was to have been spelt Suzanne. Nurse made is Susan so I was always Suzie for normal conversation and SUSAN for irratated conversation.  But "PETE" meant my Dad needed me asap. Whether it was to bring him a hammer or a rope, or get myself home to assist.

I was sorta the original boy named Sue.

4)  What is your earliest memory?

 My mind worked in memory very early my parents said.  I remember I had a dog in Wyoming. I was under 3 years of age.

I remember when coming to California how my cousin and I went to the dam and we were in serious trouble. I was only almost 4.    

5) Did your parent/s (or older siblings) read, sing or tell stories to you? Do you remember any of these? 

My parents read, sang and always was sharing information about family.  My Dad made a table for me, when I was 4 so I could set and read and color at that table. My brother has the table, hoping I get it back one day. Dad painted it blue on top and yellow legs we always kept the same colors on it. Would love to give to one of my grandchildren for their children.

My Dad and Aunt would yodel often as did  her husband once in a while.  Those Swiss gene's were very obvious. When Grandma came to visit wow, could really hear them sing, yodel.

I grew up listening to the Candlelighters,  Bing Crosby, Sons of the Pioneers and my family played guitars, harmonicas, banjo's etc. 

Dad loved to tell about his trip from Iowa to Wyoming on the train and he was less than a year old but remembered vividly. He sat on his MOM's lap and would tell us of the key things he saw. Such as going over a railroad tressle over a river, the open prairie etc.  

Sad he never got back to Iowa to replicate the trip.   Grandma said he described it as it was and she was floored he could remember thought him way to small to do that.

I think for memory to work like that it has to be key ie almost traumatic type events.

Such as I went to the River with my dog, very very dangerous and everyone was upset.

Why it stuck probably because of the trauma or I maybe would not have remembered the dog.

I had a Mother Goose book large 2 " thick and big like full page of typing paper. That my parents and others read to me and my two cousins that lived next door.

Stories that impressed me were: Jack and Jill, Jack Spratt,  Old Woman in the Shoe.

No idea why.

Try this for your self, you may find it fun.

Bonita-Sunnyside Library Facebook Knowledge for Genealogists

Today at the Bonita-Sunnyside Library we will talk about all the great places to look for help as a
genealogist / historian for your family.

I had  found about 35 places but fellow genealogist Bethel Williams found a site that listed what printed out to be 127 pages of sites on Facebook.  Can you imagine, what that can do?

Having had a super blessed luck with reaching out to kin and places for answers I have to say I definitely advocate using Facebook for Genealogy and Historical Research.

 If we have time we may talk about Timelines and how they can help you, using various topic time lines.

1 to 4 pm at Bonita-Sunnyside Library, next to Chula Vista Golf Course and Sherriff's Station.

 4375 Bonita Road

Bonita, CA 91902
(619) 475-4642

Directions