Ancestor Seekers by the Root Bound is a group of people that used to meet at the Lemon Grove Library once a month to share their genealogical data. We welcome beginners to advanced to attend. We now meet the 1st Sat. of month at the Anna's Restaurant in Lemon Grove, 1 to 4 Pm. All are welcome to attend.
Sunday, February 26, 2023
February is about to close Again. Spring is about to Spring!
February is about to close and Spring is about to SPRING!
Are you ready for the changes? You may have less time for genealogy or More.
Winter for many mneans more time indoors seeking answers to the clues we hold.
So so wish others held the other half of some of my clues.
Great Uncle Claude Foulk had a book done on his ancestry. Alas he did not like what
it told him. Great Aunt told me he fumed and fumed and was truly upset and tore the book up.
Saying the book could not be true. Alas he had not listened to his MOM or he may have felt different.
She was whom clued me into the comments that upset him.
At one time, all of my Dad's siblings had a paper written by Great Grandma about her family tree. I
seen my Aunt Bethel's and Dad said he had one also at one time. Fear his went when home
nearly burned and house was emptied. Did not see Uncle's when home emptied but
he moved many many times via service USN. Uncle's neice may have gotten his for
she was doing research.
Ironic when I was digging I had forgotten about that story, Aunt Bethel could recall and tell it well.
Having asked her children if they have the letter by Margaret Mae Eastman Foulk? So far a negative
answer has responded. Fortunately she stayed with us several times over the years and so I heard it often
when we talkd about family and filled in many blanks.
No idea why I never asked her about her husband. I loved him dearly and yet I know very little about
his family tree. What I was told is not what is needed to build his tree. He was in the USArmy during
WW2 as was his brother in law Joe Collins USArmy and his brother in law of his sister Gerald Oliver Jones.
Back to story GUncle Claude burnt the book in the fireplace it was over 200 pages Auntie told me.
The topic that upset him was learning he had Indian heritage. Documented.
No idea if another copy is anywhere or who the well known Researcher was that did the book. He woudl not
divulge that data. That is the Indian I forgot to look for. Now that I think I have found him I no longer
have the other information. Alas.
Yes I forgave him and we had a long chat about our heritage since we also had some German and other lineages in
our tree.
So we can not decide for them who lived it, verses our some times twisted thoughts.
Grandma taught me and other members of family many things she was trained to know. Plants to use,
when to do various planting, what plants grew when and why and what used for. Medicines & food
and to make clothing.
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Tuesday, February 21, 2023
Tennessee Information and places to Look.
Welcome to our Sharing Time.
TENNESSEE. Est. June 1, 1796. 226 years now 227
https://tngenweb.org/ A great place to start your adventure.
This is a super site for data for researching whether you are beginner or advanced. Ever so often new things arrive also.
They are also on Facebook and on Twitter. State Coordinator Billie R McNamara Asst StateCor ordinator Timothy West.
This site has been building since 1996. Quick Links , Contact Us and Social Media. Also TnGenWeb News Blog , Cemeteries , lists of Counties.’ Etc.
The site says there are Milions of images for early original records for Tennessee and elsewhere. Free of charge .. Also they have
The Tennesseans Through the Lens: Portrait Photography is open now. In Nashville, Tenn
Preservation and Access: Video tour of Digitization services of the National Archives.
Native American Month
https://www.tngenweb.org/tnfirst/
First people of Tennessee and the American Southeast, First Nations Indian,, Native, American, Cherokee, Chickasaw,
Creek. TNGenNet, TNGenWeb Project, Inc.
Cherokee by Blood
Taken from Tenn Gen Web Project.Inc.
There are more sites than usgenweb but I grew on these pages and helped with many over the years.
There are many new ones and interesting ones.
Google It has become the new Search feature. But try it many ways.
USGenWeb.org is always FREE. They are also on Facebook. Maps, Encyclopedia, usgenweb archives
http://www.usgenweb.org/
Jeff Kemp does Virginia Website, mailto:site.msgwsc@gmail.com
Many of the Virginians came to Tennessee. Some from North Carolina. Later from many places
I found one of the best places to learn more was from Dr George K Schweitzer, PhD.ScD.
Having attended many of his talks I can say you missed a terrifically knowledge man and his presentations.
TENNESSEE GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH by him was brought for our Society . I have no idea if we have it any more.
He mentions a book of great importance in his book and I did not go forward with the research. But learning the family I was
tracking belongs to both my MOM’s family and to my husband’s, I hope to go back and pick up the pieces later this year.
The book he recommended is “ TN HISTORY; A BIBLIOGRAPHY, UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE Press.,
KNOXVILLE, TN 1974
He mentions 3 more in this one I have. He actually mentions lots of other places to research within his region If I recall right
He is from Tennessee.
Tidbits for you.
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Yesterday New
News about WAR of 1812
WAR of 1812. Was mostly a mariime battle fought at sea. Also mostly fought in the middle states of the USA of then.
Another of my favorites dealing with this region.
Old Rappahannock existed until about 1699. Yesterday’ Newsletter has images of old wills, Deeds and Estates dating from 1656 to 1691!
NGS. A NEW COMMUNITY on FORUM:SURNAMES with LOCATIONS and TIME PERIODS.
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REFERENCES FOR THOUGHT..
TIDBITS OF INFORMATION IN: AMERICA’S FORGOTTEN COLONIAL HISTORY. BY DANA HUNTLEY
AMERICAN MIGRATION ROUTES PART 1 INDIAN PATHS, POST ROADS, & WAGON ROADS PART 1
AND PART. 11
STAGECOACH, STEAMBOAT, CANAL & EARLY RAILROAD ROUTES. By William Dollarhide. Which can be bought through: Family Roots Publishing Company.
Try Google, many old sites are on with data people forget about. The way Back. Machine is another thought. Randy
posted sites to check out. And Bill Dollarhide has many sources listed in his new book mentioned above. Wish I could afford to have Bill come talk.. Maybe via Zoom . I can ask him.
If you find a site you like, share with me, so we can share with our fellow members Please. Thanks.
More on Trails and how they got their coming.
Wednesday, February 15, 2023
Much Was Learned Today at DNA Class
It was very interesting to hear many comments today at the DNA Class.
A few weeks ago I checked back into my Ancestry Tree page. I do not do this often.
Having my data taken and recorded and sold long ago leaves me with lots of concern.
Ironic had they asked I would have given permission but trying to sell me my own
tree with out permission from me left me very wary. More than 30 years ago this happened.
I seldom put sources up on the sites I have now for the same reason. If you want my
help or knowledge ask do not just take. Many dollars were spent back then getting
Census records, Deeds, Wills, and other information to make sure my tree is correct.
When my research started it was with my Mother's asking me to write to family
that lived not near. I there by was able to reach many older people at a very young age.
We traveled to my parents area of growing up as often as we could. Wyoming, Wheatland area.
From being small to at least 5"2 tall Grandad H would set me up on the haybaler and
ask my cousins to do the same. It was three of us for a long time. Then more family
came along and I am sure he shared with them also. My graduation present was college or
go see family. I chose family thankfully for they did not live many years after my last trip
to see my Grandparents, Uncle's, Aunts and cousins.
At times it would even be family from Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas that came to meet us while we
were there. I met Grandma's siblings but one. I met only Grandad and downline of his two siblings side.
His sister had passed, his brother was in Iowa. I met Great Uncle's and Great Aunt's also from those regions.
Lots of cousins, and by golly some are still around, many alas are no longer with us.
Grandma Inez Scott Hoffman had two sistes and three brothers. Grandad Cecil Lee Hoffman had
one sister Grace and one brother Robert. Grace died rather young, she married Daniel Scott.Gmom's bro.
Brother of one side married sister of the other side. I was blessed to set on Great Uncle Daniel's knee
when I was 12. My feet did not reach the floor. He told me many family stories and I keep saying I
need to be able to recall them some are in my diary in trunk in closet. He was nearly 6 foot 6 as most of the Scott's
were. Most of thd Hoffman's were tall also. The two famiies shortest people married by being our Grandparents on Mom's
side of the tree.
So by sharing this you will understand my shock to have had my Ancestry tree severally chopped and cut and told
different information was accurate. I am glad I keep a Master on my computer, alas I lost some when back up drive died
while I was away for a period of time with other family members in need.
This reminds me of the old Family Search data of the 1950's til some changes in 1970's. Having had to tear my very old tree
apart due to incorrectly given data. Most were related but not in sequences I had.
I am thankful for the DNA of the world today. I first learned of DNA reading Archeology Magazine. It was great how they
could take fossils of old and tell you a story about them. How many years before they had lived. What they did and
how the handled life up to a point.
Remembering when they found the body frozen in a Crevice and were able to remove it and they did a complete story on
the person. I can not remember the year but it was after graduation from school.
Thrilled that DNA can now help Doctors and medical technical people for studies and potential corrections or cures.
Better yet it can live hundreds of us together just like we were taught when little.
We are all one people and so wish we would work more to get together and cooperate with life. My DNA is fun and interesting.
Was always told about our Indian heritage and meeting various relatives made me realize it really is true to be so mixed.
Thankfully one tribe reached out to me when I learned of the connection. What an exciting experience to verify something
Grandad had always said he was told was true. Since then I have found lots of imteresting links to many interesting
people of various heritages.
To think my Great Uncle paid for having his history traced and when he found data in the book he said he burnt it.
My last year to see him we chatted about the situation. After a long chat about people he said he was sorry he had burnt it.
That line I am still seeking. One day I may find a Foulk that would be of the right group to do a DNA test. Grandma and all
her siblings are gone. Dad's Mom was a Foulk. I have found kin on Dad's side of his father's family for DNA.
Better yet we now have Doctors asking for us to do DNA to help prevent ailments and correct situations before they
get out of hand. So do your DNA both sides and types. It may save a grandchild or sibling much grief.
Saturday, February 11, 2023
March Events posting Early. Roads and. Trails Etc.
Since the world still going around am hoping to get the next month set up.
We will be covering more roads and trails that affected our researching for Ancestors.
As we already know many, roads and highways. are Indian trails, and wagon trails
across the USA>.
Now I have three of Bill Dollarhides, trails & roads books and I see he did another
I missed some years back. I may go and try to find it.
Having a family story Mom and I tracked or tried to for years. Maybe these will help
to find the missing pieces.
One would think if it broke, a just made treaty with the Indians it would have been easy
to locate. The interesting thing was the man shot an Indian even after being told,
warned and reiterated often to not shoot the Indians if they run along the side of the
train. It was accepted in the Treaty to observe the people in the train cars.
Grandmother Inez Scott Hoffman told us this story for eons. My two cousins and I would
be sat on the hay baler and Grand Dad shared stories. Then He would have us go see Grandma
for more stories.
Grandma's eyes would be like black and sharp and glistening, she was very upset every time
she told this story. (I think the person given to Indians may have been kin). Yes that is
what happened. The Conductor came with help and asked whom did the shooting? The passengers
responded to the man whose gun was still emitting smoke. I can not remember what his comment
was but it was something to say, that they wouldn't really honor such an agreement.
But they DID.
Grandma said no one heard from that man ever again. It took three men to get him down the
stairs and to the Indian in the lead.
Fortunately, it saved all the other passengers and the Indians did not attacck other trains
afterwards.
But Grandmother's attitude made me always think it may have been kin?
Eons later I learned my Grandmother had a touch of Indian in her heritage. So maybe it was the
Indian killed she was related to but I do not think so. One never spoke about them in front of her.
Learned over the years we have lots of tidbits of Indian heritage in our background. A couple of
the tribes I have been able to find. One tribe found me, whoopee.
These events took place many years ago so much of the heritage has diminished. I am still
proud to have multi heritage in my background. After all Europeans had the same things
happening with them in their earlier times.
History does repeat itself. We have no control over it. We can only control how we treat
people and want people to treat us.
I do have other Indian stories that family experienced around Grandma and their mentioning of
Indians. But Grandad Cecil Leroy Hoffman had many many stories to share about his families past.
We heard many more stories
of his than hers. The only other one I strongly remember was their trying
to learn if she was related to the Lindbergs.
This event will take place 21 March at the Bonita Sunnyside Library at 1 pm to 3 p m.
WE do have a meeting 21 February also regardings trails and roads and travel.
All are welcome.
Friday, February 10, 2023
Chula Vista Genealogical Society Education Meeting. Tennessee
21 Feburary Bonita Sunnyside Library Auditorium
Bring a Friend, Bring A Laptop, we may get to use one.
An educational in-person meeting will be held from 1pm to 3pm st the
Bonita Sunnyside Library, 4375 Bonita Road, Bonita, CA
Free to all, advanced or beginners.
Discussion will include introductions, experiences, needs, and goals. Susi
will have genealogy books, and pamphlets available to share as well as some Tenessee
Informaion. Also books, maps and information covering Georgia, Kentucky and
South Carolina will be available to search.
Further Information or Questions , please contact: Susi Pentico at
SusiCP1@gmail.com
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