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Wednesday, October 23, 2013

Free Classes Scheduled for November at Lemon Grove 2013 Free

November Schedule

6 November 2013,  "Roundtable Topics, Wills,  Probates, & Codicils," with Susi Pentico

We will do our round the table questions and answers then discuss the use of Wills, Probates and Codicils, time pending.
Sometimes members have questions and comments that cover the entire evening and we do not do the additional back up.  That is the goal of this meeting, to cover the attendees needs.





20 November 2013  " Thanksgiving Memories,  Each person will share a Thanksgiving Memory or Tradition, is it related to an Ethnicity?" led by  Susi 

We are hoping to have everyone share at least one great Thanksgiving Memory they want to retain in their genealogy.  Maybe they can make it part of their Christmas Presents as a "Memory Shared"  for the other members of their family.  The event is then not lost.  

Come join in the fun and find out how easy it is to learn so much about your family and the ability to share it with out stress and confusion.   Let us show you the way.

Tuesday, October 22, 2013

Genealogical Tidbits Gathered Here and About

Pennsylvania is working on making access to adoptees birth certificates available.  I so think this is a good thing.

I heard that the Roadshow episodes are now on U-Tube.   Missing the first one & yet to see it. Saw the second one. The others I saw delayed the next morning.  My heart panicked when I watched the 2nd one. Felt better about the third one and the last was great.  I could just see people coming up to us and saying.  Tell me about my Grandparents and they would think because we do genealogy we had the answers. Yes, that still happens today.

On that note, let me share what did happen, day before yesterday.  My Sister in Law, Peggy Gordon Jones Feil wrote me needing help to find her Dad's family on an Indian Reservation in Northern CA.
I had helped work with her Dad many years ago so the names were familiar but I had not a clue as to how to proceed further with help. Bill and I never  overcame the brick wall.  I contacted a fellow genealogist named Donna Bradley, whom had gave a Seminar for us one Fall. ( I was away so missed it) and shared with her Peggy's situation.  Donna called Peggy the next morning.  Would you believe they are cousins. Donna had many answers for Peggy and it felt so good to finally help Peggy's Dad's side of the family find answers. Better still to learn related floored me.  God is Good.

Also another writer contacted me looking for information on Harold  P. Pentico of Chico, Ca who was a relative of my husband's family and lived near them in Iowa before coming to Chico, CA.

Anyone who knows about Harold's military service and life after joining the National Guard we would appreciate a contact.



Wednesday, October 16, 2013

Dunkard, Amish and Quaker Information Shared

Information was shared and exchanged about the changing of names and groups and what is currently the present formation of the Dunkard, Amish and Quaker of today.

We even re hashed data on Mennonite families and how they also lived.

Tunken means to dunk or immerse which is what these groups did instead of sprinkle for Baptism.

They broke away from the CHURCH 1525 due to Mass variant and not wanting to Baptize until adults. These groups still are practicing today. The live a simple life and some use no modern methods, some use a few but not much.  Motors are not allowed horses are still the way of plowing and getting around with a carriage.

I do not think this is so bad a life in many ways.  Imagine no phone, no lights, no gas.  We would be constantly busy cutting wood and making fires to cook and stay warm in the winter and to cook in the summer. Clothing is simpler. Their quilts are beautiful and useful. Women would not be on a computer or typewriter and they would be mending, repairing, crocheting, knitting and quilting for various needs in the home and neighborhood. Done by hand no machines, needle and thread and body movement.
Cows are milked by hand.

Some allowed pictures some did not. Some did up until a certain time then they did not.
Men shaved until married then could not. Woman could not cut their hair after marriage.

Not all of these groups used these rules each had their own ideas to bind to.  But they changed and changed and changed.  All our groups changed but the names did not bounce so much I think.

Brethren really adjusted their names over the time period.  It seemed everyone there had a family ancestor that was of these religions in earlier times.  Some are still affiliated with family that is part of these groups now.

A lot was discussed and shared.  

Dunkard  and Amish

Yes, we covered some Amish earlier but they were at one time with the Mennonites and then things changed.

They changed many times in 110 years.  When they came to America and settled in PA and NJ and some of the seaboard areas, staying away from the Puritans who despised them and their genial ways.

Puritans were known to hang and burn them at the stake.  A pretty extreme for being a so called
Religion.
 

Dunkards are known under many names or groups over time, but not all were related.  The Plymouth Brethren
developed in 19th century England.  Their largest meeting was held in Plymouth, England.

Church of the Brethren originated in 1708 in Germany. The Brethren Churches of German origin were known as Dunkards coming from the word tunken, to deep or immerse.

Neither group is close to the United Brethren which started in Pennsylvania.  Was very popular with the German-American’s on the frontier.  It was Methodist and today is merged with that group.

Some groups:  Church of the Brethren (Conservative Dunkers). The Brethren Church ( {Progressive Dunkers), and the Old German Baptist Brethren (Old Order of Dunkers).
Another is the River Brethren, officially the Brethren in Christ.

Data came be found in Handbook of Denominations In the United States by Mead and Hill.

The Church of the Brethren, settled in Pa about 1719. They printed the Bible, in Germantown in German.
 In 1743, they had a news bulletin they circulated through out the region. First of it’s kind.

Very few kept records as like Lutherans, so records were not kept much prior to 1880.
They did in their bulletins post obituraries of their members. VINDICATOR,  THE GOSPEL VISITOR,  THE CHRISTIAN FAMILY COMPANION WEEKLY.

The Brethren  Historical Library  and Archives, Elgin, Ill has a card file for 1851 to 1875.  It has not been published but they will do look ups.

In 1881 there was a split.  The Old German Baptist Brethren now called the Old Order of Brethren. They contained control of the papers etc.  They published a complete list of the obituaries covering 1 Jan 1870 to Nov 1989.
Alva C  Riffey, Rt 2 Box 59, Westphalia, KS 66903. 
Other  histories were written also. History of the Church of the Brethren of the Southern District of Ohio, edited by Elder Jesse O Garst(Dayton, OH,  Otterbein Press 1920.  600 pages

Carolyn Teach Denlinger compiled another. For a complete list of the district histories and other works see:
Bibliography on the Colonial Germans of North America. 


Dunkards withdrew from the Church of the Brethren. They are sometimes known as the German Baptist Brethren. Founded in 1708,  in Schwarzenau, Germany. They came to West Virginia after or about 1759.

They were pacifists Protestant Dissenters, very similar to Amish, Mennonite, and Moravian.  They were the parent of the Old German Baptist Brethren 1882.
 

Dunkards got their name from the dunking 3 times for Baptism .  They also wash feet at communion, and live a conservative lifestyle.

e-WV | German Dunkards

Dunkard Brethren Church

Climbing The Genealogy Tree: Dunkards

Knowing I have Brethren in my lines from VA, WVA  and PA.  One site even mentions them in the Carolina's.
 

All forms of the Anabaptist communities are:  Hutterites, Amish, Dunkards, Old Order Mennonites and Apostolic Christian.  They wanted to life a simple life.
Printed Sources  pg 696-7 has more data on the complexities of these groups and divisions

The Source references more on various pages, depending which you want.

Saturday, October 12, 2013

Dunkard and Amish Wed 6 to 8 pm Lemon Grove Library 16 Oct

Dunkard  and Amish

Yes, we covered some Amish earlier but they were at one time with the Mennonites and then things changed.

They changed many times in 110 years.  When they came to America and settled in PA and NJ and some of the seaboard areas, staying away from the Puritans who despised them and their genial ways.

Puritans were known to hang and burn them at the stake.  A pretty extreme for being a so called
Religion.

Dunkard's withdrew from the Church of the Brethren.  are sometimes known as the German Baptist Brethren. Founded in 1708  in Schwarzenau, Germany. They came to West Virginia  after or about 1759.

They were pacifists Protestant Dissenters, very similar to Amish, Mennonite, and Moravian.  They were the  parent of the Old German Baptist Brethren 1882.

Dunkards got their name from the dunking 3 times for Baptism .  They also wash feet at communion, and live a conservative lifestyle.

e-WV | German Dunkards


Dunkard Brethren Church

Climbing The Genealogy Tree: Dunkards

Knowing I have Brethren in my lines from VA, WVA  and PA.  One site even mentions them in the Carolina's.

All forms of the Anabaptist communities are:  Hutterites, Amish, Dunkards, Old Order Mennonites and Apostolic Christian.  They wanted to life a  simple life.

Mennonite and Quaker Information Bonita-Sunnyside Library 12:30 to 3:30

Mennonite and Quaker Information with a smattering of Amish to be presented at the Bonita Sunnyside Library today 12 October 2013.  12:30 to 3:30.

Some source books will also be available to look at and gather addresses.

Hope to see you there.

Saturday, October 5, 2013

A Veteran's Day Event, please step Forward.

As we know many of our younger generation are not really understanding Veteran's Day and saluting Flag and being an American Citizen or Patriot.

A dear friend I know whom is also a teacher is attempting to do something about it.  She has planned a terrific event for the students at Chula Vista High School to learn more.

She is in need of our Genealogical and non genealogical buddies to come forward and help her full fill the day with knowledge.

Here is the flyer she sent me to ask me to help gather my friends  and acquaintances to rally around this event. If in doubt contact me at SusiCP@cox.net or 619 623 5250 . I am hoping we can give her at least 10 helpers. I know we have lots of Veteran's out there, within our circles.
Sorry Diane the clippings didn't come across.

Chula Vista High School


"Take A Veteran To School" Day






•            Who:  Veterans and Active Duty Personnel from our community including the Veterans of Foreign War,  VFW Motorcycle Club, AMVETS,  Fleet Reserve, American Legion, and the Wounded Warriors Foundation
•            What:  “Take a VETERAN to School Day”
•            When: Thursday, November 7, 2013 (9:00 a.m. – 12:00)
•            Where: Chula Vista High School 820 Fourth Ave. Chula Vista, CA.92040
•            How: Veterans and Active Duty personnel will be invited to be guest speakers in history  classes , and honored and recognized  at our patriotic Assembly celebrating Veteran’s Day.
•            Why: To recognize Veteran’s Day and to honor and show appreciation for those who have and are serving in our military.

Briefing: Veterans will be “adopted” by students and “shadow” or visit 2 of their classes, they may be asked to make a brief presentation about their military experience and then all Veterans will meet in the theater for our Patriotic Assembly to celebrate Veteran’s Day.

I am looking for Veterans and Active Duty military to participate




  Thank You
  for serving our country and
   protecting our freedoms!
Please contact Diana Rude – Kulhanek for more information - 619-476-3300

Tuesday, October 1, 2013

Roundtable Chat, Brick Walls and Charts, Wed 6 to 8 pm 2 October

We will devote the evening to a Roundtable discussion of everyones different brick walls. We will also go over some charts to help log and keep track of the information you may have missing in your files to help break down the brick walls.

 Also hoping to demonstrate a new way to do research. Someone suggested it the other day and I have been using it for two days and it is opening up all kinds of potentials.

A Timeline will be shared for your research usage and you take it home to maybe mock it to create a personal one for your self and your ancestors.

Bringing Maps for people to see regarding land records and how they play a major role in research.

Some sites you may want to check out are being listed below for various nationality researches.

Scottish Genealogy Tips Tricks & Tidbits  The topic listed here in, is what I was involved in with Google+.  It is a growing community with rooms for chats and sites for various organizations.


 You may find help with this site.


http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nytigs/SurrogateCourtRecords/SurrogateCourt_Jon-Juz.htm
Troy Irish Genealogy Society


http://everynameindex.com/index.html

This site covers southwest PA and some VA, WVA, OH, MD records. Coal Mine Accidents,

 http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/s.html
Old Occupations - S  alphabetically regarding old Occupations.

See you Wednesday Evening  at the Lemon Grove Library.  Sure  hope you can make it.

IT IS FREE.